Really cool valve technology!

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  • slow325isedan
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    Very interesting indeed, but i couldn't help but get distracted by your signature lol

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  • randomtask37
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    that system is incredible. i think i saw someone above say F1 has used a version, which makes me wonder how/why this hasnt been mass produced yet...

    anyway this kind of control is ridiculous and could/should be used in future motors. i got real excited when he started alluding to a turboless... turbo application.
    great post

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  • spdracrm3
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    [/quote] Definately will be revolutionary when it is implemented. What compresses the air, assuming you are cruising the air supply tank would run out if you didn't have engine braking to compress the air. A pump run off the engine? simple enough and it would definately have less losses than a chain or belt drive cam and valvetrain.[/quote]


    i could imagine while in steady state cruise you could do a version of displacement on demand and turn one cylinder into an air pump (turn off fuel injector)to resupply the compressed air tank.

    on the lines of valvetrain systems anybody seen the Fiat Multi-air system ,pretty darn clever and more adjustable and reliable than BMW's Valvetronic i would think. soon to be implemented on Chrysler engines . throttleless engines are coming and the only way to meet the new EPA mileage standards i think,reducing throttling losses are the next big step.



    still the koenigsegg system would be the ultimate if proven reliable ,any cam profiles you want and adjust on the fly,crazy cool

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  • TobyB
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    Theory is wonderful.

    I shaved my head once, and talked with a Sveedish akksent.

    Practice makes motors.

    'Memeber a buncha years back when F1 cars sometimes needed an air recharge
    for their valves, sitting on the grid?

    As with everything, the devil is in the details. The details, so far,
    have stuck us with camshafts, and things like pneumatix and electomagnets
    are having troubles with things like heat, pressure and time.

    Maybe someday, maybe soon, but not wetting self yet.

    t
    :dot:

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  • King Mufasa
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    The future is electricity and hydrogen, accompanied with technology like this.

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  • bades2001
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    Originally posted by E30SPDFRK
    A version of this has been used on F1 engines for years now. It is an awesome technology though.
    exactly what i was thinking when i first saw this

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  • IronFreak
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    Originally posted by downforce22
    Cool for sure mostly because of the simlpicity. Wonder why people have been researching variable valve timing when something like this would make that a snap.

    Definately will be revolutionary when it is implemented. What compresses the air, assuming you are cruising the air supply tank would run out if you didn't have engine braking to compress the air. A pump run off the engine? simple enough and it would definately have less losses than a chain or belt drive cam and valvetrain.
    Many guys in the offroad world convert there A/C pumps to air pumps to fill up on board air tanks. So I think your on point there.

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  • downforce22
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    Cool for sure mostly because of the simlpicity. Wonder why people have been researching variable valve timing when something like this would make that a snap.

    Definately will be revolutionary when it is implemented. What compresses the air, assuming you are cruising the air supply tank would run out if you didn't have engine braking to compress the air. A pump run off the engine? simple enough and it would definately have less losses than a chain or belt drive cam and valvetrain.

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  • Vtec?lol
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    I had a dream about this about 10 years ago. When I tried to talk to friends about it, they called me an idiot.
    Turns out I'm an idiot for not patenting it.

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  • craiggroves91
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    Originally posted by MoreMayhem
    M20 version shipped to 93021?
    20k I can have it to you by Tomorrow

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  • Massimo
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    Err Alfa romeo MiTo already has camless exhaust valves.

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  • CabbE30
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    By days, I mean yesterdays..

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  • CabbE30
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    I was going to post this a couple days back but I figured it would be here already. Nonetheless we should get a 885 head retrofit.

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  • MoreMayhem
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    M20 version shipped to 93021?

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  • mulletman
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    Originally posted by HawaiianE30
    Yeah holy shit.. I was like this couldn't possibly get any better than the square curve and then he casually mentioned it would do away with the timing belt... geeze talk about unleashing more power :firehop:
    Seriously awesome. He mentioned 20% more fuel efficient, with 30% more power and torque. Imagine an engine like an S54 with something like this...

    Also, the air engine stuff would be incredible. Using off-throttle engine braking to compress air for your valvetrain, or being able to use it to provide additional manifold pressure like a forced-induction setup... would be just amazing.

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