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  • Andy.B
    E30 Mastermind
    • Sep 2011
    • 1650

    #16
    Originally posted by Ryann
    Calm the fuck down. Even if the welded area cracks and falls off there is still enough spring there to avoid 'total annihilation'.
    Exactly.

    Plenty of people run cut pigtail springs without bothering to weld them. I've seen some creative solutions, from wire, to self taping screws and brackets. Either way, even if the weld brakes, the car hits a huge bump, the suspension unloads, and the spring falls out, the worst that will happen is the car will bottom out on the bump stops.

    Will it handle well with cut springs? Possibly not, but it certainly won't be as bad as many love to claim. And is he putting himself, or anyone else at risk? No.

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    • flyboyx
      R3V OG
      • Sep 2008
      • 8371

      #17
      there isn't a filler material for welding spring steel per se. the reason why is because the metal in a spring is tempered. that is to say it receives a special heat treatment that allows it to be tough but yet flex. when you heat the spring during welding, you are screwing up the temper. if the weld doesn't break, you will have a break in the spring itself just past the welded area on one side or the other. basically, for this not to break, it would need to be re tempered.

      as far as filler material goes, they all are unsuited for this purpose, but i think the best choice would be stainless 304.
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      88 cabrio becoming alpina b6 3.5s transplanted s62
      92 Mtech 2 cabrio alpinweiss 770 code
      88 325ix coupe manual lachsilber/cardinal
      88 325ix coupe manual diamondschwartz/natur
      87 e30 m3 for parts lachsilber/cardinal(serial number 7)
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      • iansane
        E30 Fanatic
        • Oct 2011
        • 1341

        #18
        Not to mention heating a spring up enough to melt the metal is going to soften the spring rate like crazy...
        84 325e - 91 325i - 92 318 touring - 91 Trans Am - 01 S4 avant - 03 S-type R - 96 F350 - 15 SS - 84 Biturbo - 91 Defender

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        • CHIF8008
          No R3VLimiter
          • Nov 2010
          • 3447

          #19
          fa razz
          -FREEDOM- is cruisin at 80, windows down and listening to the perfect song-thinking "this is it"
          -The Beauty in the Tragedy-
          MECHANIC SMASH!!- (you all know you do it)
          Got Drop?? ;-)
          Originally posted by JinormusJ
          But of course
          E30s are know to be notoriously really really really ridiculously good looking

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          • IronFreak
            No R3VLimiter
            • Dec 2012
            • 3702

            #20
            Originally posted by iansane
            Not to mention heating a spring up enough to melt the metal is going to soften the spring rate like crazy...
            You don't heat it to that point. It's to extract the moisture that build up in the steel. Heating steel to "sweat" it is very common practice. I do it quite often, it allows you to produce a cleaner weld as well.
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            • nickflic3
              No R3VLimiter
              • Sep 2009
              • 3564

              #21
              Originally posted by Larzzz
              Its a 1971 torino. Just a 302 with a upgraded comp cam, headers intake and have a 4 barrel carb to put on. Have a 429 waiting to go in..dont know when though. haha. Has a hole in the hood for the cobra jet shaker we have too.
              Nice, my buddy turned me in to a die hard 351 fan haha He had a Clevland in his 71 Gran Torino till it got wrecked. Just put it in a Mach 1 that should be out of paint soon
              Bronzit 4-door Swap Drifting somewhere
              Cammed B25 Swap Daily Driver
              Updated 10/1

              Originally posted by StereoInstaller1
              Maybe 300 CANADIAN HP, thats like 225 US HP.

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              • iansane
                E30 Fanatic
                • Oct 2011
                • 1341

                #22
                Originally posted by IronFreak
                You don't heat it to that point. It's to extract the moisture that build up in the steel. Heating steel to "sweat" it is very common practice. I do it quite often, it allows you to produce a cleaner weld as well.
                ...I'm talking about welding the spring.
                84 325e - 91 325i - 92 318 touring - 91 Trans Am - 01 S4 avant - 03 S-type R - 96 F350 - 15 SS - 84 Biturbo - 91 Defender

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                • Jboss12
                  Grease Monkey
                  • Jan 2012
                  • 357

                  #23
                  dont do eet, your car will splode


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                  • mikeedler
                    R3V OG
                    • Feb 2004
                    • 6707

                    #24
                    WOW I love this place. We are actually discussing welding a spring back together?????

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                    • MR 325
                      Moderator
                      • Oct 2003
                      • 37827

                      #25
                      I think the term "is this real life?" applies to this one...
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                      • JasonC
                        Site Manager
                        • Aug 2006
                        • 14451

                        #26
                        Am i even on r3v right now? This is just wow....

                        1992 BMW 325iC
                        1978 Chevrolet Monte Carlo
                        1965 Chevrolet Corvair Monza 140hp

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                        • Court M3
                          R3V OG
                          • Jan 2004
                          • 6713

                          #27
                          Originally posted by JasonC
                          Am i even on r3v right now? This is just wow....
                          Had to recheck my browser and make sure I wasn't on any of the vw forums
                          Continuous For Sale Thread
                          323i s50

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                          • Larzzz
                            E30 Addict
                            • Jan 2013
                            • 531

                            #28
                            im not gonna be using them.. everyone just needs to settle down. its not like ill be driving for months with these on! just gonna see how it is. if they brake, they brake oh well.
                            1991 318i Slicktop - Sold
                            1991 325ix - Sold
                            1997 Estoril M3 Coupe - Sold
                            1986 325es - RIP
                            1997 328is - Sold
                            1995 Avus M3

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                            http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=281596

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                            • agent
                              Vice Grand Pubaa
                              • Mar 2010
                              • 7960

                              #29
                              break
                              Originally posted by kronus
                              would be in depending on tip slant and tube size

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                              • TimKninja
                                R3VLimited
                                • Mar 2009
                                • 2131

                                #30
                                Vote to ban OP.

                                I can't believe I'm seeing this .
                                1985 325e M50TU(Sold)
                                1991 318is Slicktop (Sold)
                                1990 325is Brilliantrot S50/5 Lug Swapped.
                                1992 525i Manual shitbox Winter Beater

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