To ///M badge, or not to ///M badge...

[Farbin Kaiber]

Yeah, look up an S50B30USA or S52B32 or an euro S50B30 or S50B32.

or,

http://www.dtmpower.net/forum/australia/159867-great-s50b30-s50b32-s50b30us-s52b32us-debate.html

Summary
Only the USA ever got the S52 engine, which is nothing like the S50B32 VANOS 3.2 litre engine the rest of the world got. The US engine is nowhere near as good.

The early model E36 M3s got the S50B30 engine everywhere except the USA. The USA got the S50B30USA engine which is nothing like the S50B30. It is nowhere near as good.

We have S50B30s (3 litre) and S50B32s (3.2 litres). We never had S52s. Our engines are full BMW Motorsport engines. The USA engines are cheaper, less powerful derivatives from the standard BMW M50.

[mr2peak]

if the internals are the same, what would it matter if its stamped with a s-vin or not? If it was not worthy BMW would have done something about it.

Or they would have just shipped it America..

Was it a 325 (as in an "undercover" 'e' car) or a 325i or 325is?

Plane 325, de-bage it
325i, change to 330i/330is
325is leave it and be classic

[CHIF8008]

hahahaha

OP do what you want. badge-less may just look best

"real M engine" make more than the US M engine?

[george graves]

I think I may have started a fight....
<-----slowly backs away and leaves the room.

[Farbin Kaiber]

They did do something about it, it was called using an engine platform that could pass emissions regulations and putting cams and stroke to it instead of working the real M engine for that chassis to pass.

[CHIF8008]

if the internals are the same, what would it matter if its stamped with a s-vin or not? If it was not worthy BMW would have done something about it.

[Farbin Kaiber]

still a m3 no? M is not specifically for euro spec. just dont get M body panels and call it a M3. its M POWA. not M body panel power.


but badge-less looks clean as always. Its the motor that determines the car, not how it looks. looks are called styling.

You really are wet behind the ears mango.

His joke is saying all US-Spec e36 m3's are not real M powerplanted because they are m50/2 based engines, not real S-VIN engines. It's ok, you'll get it one day.

[CHIF8008]

Well guess I better start ripping off the ///M badges on all the US spec e36 M3's that I see. :)

still a m3 no? M is not specifically for euro spec. just dont get M body panels and call it a M3. its M POWA. not M body panel power.


but badge-less looks clean as always. Its the motor that determines the car, not how it looks. looks are called styling.

[jdirty]

Or put a 318is on it for that sleeper effect. lol

[george graves]

I would just hang a drift charm on your tow hook. Let's people know you're serious.

M drive-train car is allowed to have a M on it. Period.

Well guess I better start ripping off the ///M badges on all the US spec e36 M3's that I see. :)

[CHIF8008]

M drive-train car is allowed to have a M on it. Period.

[Holland]

330is

Would be the best way to do it, imo.

[e30construction]

debadge always looks best imo

[word is bond]

330is

[FredK]

I would just hang a drift charm on your tow hook. Let's people know you're serious.