'Ring Weapon of Choice?

[Wh33lhop]

From what I remember the m40 is a terrible engine. Can't remember if the 316 is an m10 or an m40.

[word is bond]

Well - even if you're not going to ship it back, I think it would be fun to daily something we don't get in the states. How many other opportunities will you get to do so?

[Eric]

This makes no sense on so many levels...

-It's too expensive to ship a car ($1500) yet your going to be racing?
-your a complete ring noob, yet you'll be racing for a company that rents its cars to hundreds of people a year that have much much more experience than you. I'm sure their pool of possible drivers is a line out the door if they asked.
-You dont want a BMW even though tons of people said it's a very good choice, then you decide on getting the absolute worse E30 possible?


This thread is nearly as much of a waste of time as those "I'm going to germany, what should I bring back from junk yards" threads.:hitler:

[MikeLenoch5]

This makes no sense on so many levels...

-It's too expensive to ship a car ($1500) yet your going to be racing?
-your a complete ring noob, yet you'll be racing for a company that rents its cars to hundreds of people a year that have much much more experience than you. I'm sure their pool of possible drivers is a line out the door if they asked.
-You dont want a BMW even though tons of people said it's a very good choice, then you decide on getting the absolute worse E30 possible?


This thread is nearly as much of a waste of time as those "I'm going to germany, what should I bring back from junk yards" threads.:hitler:

Not shipping a car back. I said that.

I'm guessing this is the first time you've heard of "gentleman drivers" who -- pay a great deal of money, and despite their lack of skill -- keep race teams afloat. I will not be a full 'Ring noob by the time I race in LATE 2014. I will get instruction and make many, many trips to do Touristenfahrentage before I set foot in a race car for VLN.

And the teams don't care about experience so long as you pay them and don't wreck the car. I spoke to Dale Lomas already and we talked about pricing for a seat for one race and it's rather reasonable.

Thanks for your wealth of encouragement.

[MikeLenoch5]

Well - even if you're not going to ship it back, I think it would be fun to daily something we don't get in the states. How many other opportunities will you get to do so?

Yes, but I'd rather save my money for something like a G-Series 911 down the road. I could always buy Mike Solo's Peugeot 205 GTI, which he's selling in the 'States as well.

[MikeLenoch5]

From what I remember the m40 is a terrible engine. Can't remember if the 316 is an m10 or an m40.

I'm looking at a 318i touring. M42s are reliable though?

[E30_Pare]

Theres a guy out here that shipped his 100k mini over just to track all over Europe hit the ring of course.

early 316s are carb'd m10s

[Eric]

Not shipping a car back. I said that.

Don't care if you ship a car back or not... for purely driving on the ring, a newer car would be a better choice than an old one. However you cited shipping costs being to much, yet the cost of racing is not? As a student too??? Unless your doing a year of understudy with the retired Michael as your tutor and financier, I don't see how you can consider w2w racing cheaper than RORO shipping.

I'm guessing this is the first time you've heard of "gentleman drivers" who -- pay a great deal of money, and despite their lack of skill -- keep race teams afloat. I will not be a full 'Ring noob by the time I race in LATE 2014. I will get instruction and make many, many trips to do Touristenfahrentage before I set foot in a race car for VLN.

Actually.

In 2010 I was working on my DMSB licensee to co-drive an E30 in one of the 6 hour VLN races but unfortunetly a deployment to Afghanistan derailed that opportunity.

Part of the "gentleman agreement" I had with the car owner was that if I ball the car up, it was on me to repair or replace it. If somebody were to smash into me, I would have to pay for the repair/replacement as well. This was a minimum 5000€ possible cost. Approx 450€ for the license, 800€ for racing suit/shoes/underwear/helmet. $800 for HANS device (required by wife) 400€ entrance fee's and another 500€ in fuel/tires/brakes and other consumables.

With the personal experience I had in the journey to become a "gentleman driver," I'm sure you can now understand how ludicrous it is to me to think that shipping a car is too expensive, but pay to play racing isn't. Plus this was in a crap can E30! I'd assume those 128's are 30,000€ cars. RSR doesn't fool around with prepping their cars, and I'd guess that my cost estimate is low.

And the teams don't care about experience so long as you pay them and don't wreck the car. I spoke to Dale Lomas already and we talked about pricing for a seat for one race and it's rather reasonable.

You are taking a huge risk thinking that you will NOT damage the car during a race. I wish you the best, but that could be an expensive mistake.

Thanks for your wealth of encouragement.

Sometimes the truth is crisp.

I'm looking at a 318i touring. M42s are reliable though?

318 tourings are M40's unless the motor has been swapped.

[MikeLenoch5]

]Don't care if you ship a car back or not... for purely driving on the ring, a newer car would be a better choice than an old one. However you cited shipping costs being to much, yet the cost of racing is not? As a student too??? Unless your doing a year of understudy with the retired Michael as your tutor and financier, I don't see how you can consider w2w racing cheaper than RORO shipping.
[/B]


Actually.

In 2010 I was working on my DMSB licensee to co-drive an E30 in one of the 6 hour VLN races but unfortunetly a deployment to Afghanistan derailed that opportunity.

Part of the "gentleman agreement" I had with the car owner was that if I ball the car up, it was on me to repair or replace it. If somebody were to smash into me, I would have to pay for the repair/replacement as well. This was a minimum 5000€ possible cost. Approx 450€ for the license, 800€ for racing suit/shoes/underwear/helmet. $800 for HANS device (required by wife) 400€ entrance fee's and another 500€ in fuel/tires/brakes and other consumables.

With the personal experience I had in the journey to become a "gentleman driver," I'm sure you can now understand how ludicrous it is to me to think that shipping a car is too expensive, but pay to play racing isn't. Plus this was in a crap can E30! I'd assume those 128's are 30,000€ cars. RSR doesn't fool around with prepping their cars, and I'd guess that my cost estimate is low.



You are taking a huge risk thinking that you will NOT damage the car during a race. I wish you the best, but that could be an expensive mistake.



Sometimes the truth is crisp.



318 tourings are M40's unless the motor has been swapped.

I am fortunate enough that my grandfather has saved enough to send me to college. Thus, the money I saved for the past couple of years, made from selling my S54 and earned this summer mean that I can afford to race wheel-to-wheel in VLN, buy a car and track it on the 'Ring.

I have already bought all the necessary driving equipment. And I didn't buy all of it just so I can tool around in a VLN car I have no idea how to drive. I do NASA HPDE 4 and have completed a Skip Barber 3-day Racing School. And I realize this does not at all mean I am the best driver in the world, or on any track, anywhere. However, this does mean I am not absolutely clueless behind the wheel. In addition, I will seek out instruction for driving on the 'Ring.

Dale told me directly all I DO need to participate in a VLN race is an American International C license.

OK and just to show you that I can listen, what modern rear-wheel-drive car would you recommend?

[Hooffenstein HD]

Personally I would keep it simple. E46 325ci. Common and cheap, no exotic parts to break. With a few cheap mods like suspension and tyres it should be blast.

Example. http://www.ebay.de/itm/BMW-325-Ci-Kl...item51b2c0fd5b

[Eric]

Curious what you ended up with?

[Mr. Tasty]

Curious what you ended up with?

A huge black dildo.