Just Bought an M3. Gonna sell E30.

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  • duleymane///iS
    Advanced Member
    • Jun 2012
    • 153

    #1

    Just Bought an M3. Gonna sell E30.

    Just picked up an E46 M3. Pictured here.

    Now what do you all think would be a reasonable price for my E30, or should I just part it out to try and make money. I feel like no one would like to buy it, and plus I dont really want anyone else but me to drive it.

    Here is what I wrote for a "sale" add.

    Car: 1990 BMW E30 318is
    M42b18 1.8L DOHC 16v 4 cylinder 140hp 136tq factory 7200rpm redline. Factory forged crankshaft . Hydraulic lifters so no need for valve adjustment. Factory adjustable cam gears intake and exhaust.
    Advance or retard 5 degrees
    Over 300,000k clocked before I changed clusters. Factory 5 speed manual, and 4.10 LSD. No A/C, P/S, or power anything inside. Everything is manual (windows, mirrors, seats, sunroof). Front and rear fogs. 2 door coupe apprx. 2600 lbs from factory. I have gutted the car of rear carpet, seats, front and rear door panels , trunk pieces and small stuff here and there. Still have door panels and seats. Consistently gets 29 MPG average. Loves to cruise between 100 and 130 kmh wouldn't go much faster for extended times due to the gearing. But she will top out at 200kmh due to gearing it has no top speed limiter from factory. Has made trips to Spangdalhem, Trier, Heidleberg, Bitburg, Nurburgring. No hiccups ever.

    Engine: AFE cotton panel filter.
    Larger intake snorkel from Honda accord.
    New intake boot.
    Replaced all vacuum lines, coolant lines, intake manifold/throttle body gaskets, cleaned Idle Control Valve, replaced valve cover gasket, fuel filter, lower oil pan gasket, thermostat replaced and timing chain tensioner less than 12 months ago.
    8 mm BMW factory performance spark plug wires less then 12 months old. Spark plugs replaced less than 4 months ago.
    Deleted throttle body heater plate/ vacuum and coolant lines associated with it. O2 sensor replaced October 2013. Down pipe back exhaust 2.5 inch with no name German spec resonator and magnaflow stainless steel sport muffler with dual 3 in DTM tips w/ factory tubular manifold(header) no cats 300 euros less than 12 months ago. Oil changes EVERY 3 months regardless of miles put on. Summer with Castrol 20w-50 and winter 10w-40 both Dino oil recommended by BMW. Last change sept 2013 w/ 10w-40. Key for engine life and reliability at higher rpms.

    Suspension:
    Condor speed shop solid UMWH M3 offset control arm bushings less than 12 months old. Brake pads replaced less than 12 months ago. OEM front control arms, OEM front wheel bearing/hub assemblies, OEM ate brake rotors front replaced less than 4 months ago. Front brake rotor backing plates removed. Front and rear sway bar links replaces with Meyle HD links less than 6 months ago. Meyle HD rear shock mounts with UUC rear shock mount reinforcement kit replaced less than 6 months ago. Delrin rear spring pads. Custom Eibach race springs 440lbs front 6 inch coil over spring. 600 lbs rear 5 inch coil over spring. Ground Control coil over conversion kit adjusters for ride height. Koni SA (single adjustable for rebound only) at all 4 corners. Custom refurbished front struts(57 mm struts not found on any other 4 cylinder only iS models and 325i and 325iS.) with OEM spring perch cut and replaced with Ground Control spring perch for coil over adjustability. H&R 25 mm hub centric wheel spacers rear. 5mm spacers front.

    Footwork:
    BBS Mahle 15 in wheels staggered offsets . Needs new rubber old Falken Azenis RTK -615s 205/50r-15
    Borbet ABT 16 in with hun centric rings. wheels for winter Hankook Icebears 205/55r-16.
    Motegi Racing wheels 17 in. No hub rings. Comes with " tuner lugs" needed to fit wheels. Tires are Sumitomo all seasons 215/40r-17.
    BMW factory 14 in bottle caps. 2 tires need replaced old Pirelli all seasons 195/60r-14.
    14 in Factory steelies.

    Other: smoked rear tail lights, turn signals. Have OEM tails for inspection. Sticker bomb fender. Beat up VW golf lip. Yellow fog lights.
    Radio with aux cable. M-tech 1 steering wheel with ///M clip. Brushed aluminum junk yard find shift knob. Crown royal shift boot. Heavy rubber floor mats. Analog clock. Some spare parts. Almost compete tool kit in trunk. Seats are OEM sport seats with the grey plaid. They do need to be rebuilt that's why they are swapped sides. Pioneer speakers front and rear. Homemade clutch stop stops clutch pedal as soon as clutch engages so you don't waste time pushing the pedal all the way in.

    Cons:
    Car was in accident, I took a turn too fast and blew thru a fence. Polizei let me drive home. From that I replaced radiator, radiator mounts, front valence, bumper, headlights, grill and kidneys, fog lights, turn signals, all lightbulbs, trunk, and driver fender and side mirrors. Because of this the roof as some damage from the chain links and hood from pole. There is rust on this car in multiple places, engine bay, under windshield on the a pillar, rear wheel well in trunk , passenger wheel well floor pan. Drivers door. I have been quoted at the Russian man for cut a welds starting at 120 euros. Chassis is still stiff and has hardly any body roll and feels very flat and stable on high speed corners because of this I rarely need to use the brakes so the pads still look new. 4th gear synchro has been out since I purchased the car but isn't a problem just don't slam it in to 4th you have to feather the throttle. Gets loud due to lack of sound deadening or interior especially on the autobahn. Fuel gauge reads half full on empty.
    Things I would do if I could keep the car: ( in order of precedence)
    Rear subframe bushings, rear trailing arm bushings.
    Diff mount.
    Trans and engine mounts.
    Replace shifter bushings.
    Rear brake over haul ( rotors and parking brakes.
    Rebuild calipers front and rear.
    Rebuild differential.
    Timing chain and gears.
    Rust.
    Only performance I would do is solid urethane bushings for the rear and sway bars front and rear. And race seat. Car is already great.
    Could be a great project car as I have seen worse and it can be taken back to the states in mid 2015. It has been a reliable daily with no more than 24 hours of downtime.(accident and blown coolant line under intake manifold.)
  • NufnSus
    Advanced Member
    • Apr 2012
    • 119

    #2
    Originally posted by duleymane///iS
    ...plus I dont really want anyone else but me to drive it.
    lolwut?
    I don't really see why that would be an issue, but maybe that's just me


    Anyway, I'd part it out, sounds like you've got quite the stash there, so either way you'd make more cash by selling everything separately. And trying to find a buyer willing to take the lot at equivalent prices could take a while, especially with four sets of wheels.
    Plus, I'd imagine this thing would be a magnet for trouble at any TÜV inspection (hence affecting asking-price)...





    oh, and, dibs on the fog lights! ;D

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    • AwakenNoMore
      E30 Fanatic
      • Dec 2010
      • 1291

      #3
      Put everything from the E46 in the E30. Wiring and all. Secret beast with modern comforts and performance.
      1991 325i - "Scambles" The Daily Driven lightly modded.
      1988 Mazda RX-7 TII "Mako" The Free Dorito
      bacon by Jared Laabs, on Flickr

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      • audiquattrot
        No R3VLimiter
        • May 2008
        • 3836

        #4
        Just keep both. That's what I do
        www.instagram.com/snwmble
        #snwmble

        Current:
        '05 BMW M3 - Silver Grey/Imola Red
        '90 BMW 325iX - Sterling Silver/Houndstooth sport(5-speed converted)
        '15 Mini Countryman - Blazing Red/Carbon Black

        Past:
        '01 Audi Allroad - Light Silver/Platinum Saber Black
        '88 BMW 325iX - Diamond Schwarz/Silver sport *Sold*
        '01.5 1.8TQ - Brilliant Black/Nogaro Alcantara ...after 8.5yrs, *Sold* =(
        '90 BMW 325i - Schwarz/Tan sport *Sold*
        '89 BMW 325ix - Diamond Schwarz/Black sport *Sold*

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        • dannyyisntt
          No R3VLimiter
          • Sep 2008
          • 3141

          #5
          Just Bought an M3. Gonna sell E30.

          Originally posted by audiquattrot
          Just keep both. That's what I do
          This. Its what I did when I bought my e46 m3. Plus its such a relief knowing I can be a full on tool now
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          • duleymane///iS
            Advanced Member
            • Jun 2012
            • 153

            #6
            Well I have less than a year left here in Germany and that's why I bought a US Spec car. I cant take the E30 or my EG hatch back to the states. So I needed to something I could. But yeah part out seems better I doubt I could get more than 1500 for it. OH btw the M3 is not stock either. here is the list from the dealer:
            Xenon headlights
            Umnitza V4 angel eyes
            Matte black kidney and side gills
            Rogue engineering race brace strut tower bar
            Storm motorwerks titanium shift knob,gaiter ring, sat nav buttons, ebrake handle and button
            Navigation with EU and US disc
            Eagle industries led tail lights
            CREE led reverse lights
            Supersprint X pipe with no resonator
            Supersprint race exhaust
            Ac schnitzer sport tune
            KW variant 1 coilovers
            Modbargains carbon fiber shift paddles
            Last edited by duleymane///iS; 11-02-2013, 04:59 AM.

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            • duleymane///iS
              Advanced Member
              • Jun 2012
              • 153

              #7
              Originally posted by NufnSus
              lolwut?
              I don't really see why that would be an issue, but maybe that's just me


              Anyway, I'd part it out, sounds like you've got quite the stash there, so either way you'd make more cash by selling everything separately. And trying to find a buyer willing to take the lot at equivalent prices could take a while, especially with four sets of wheels.
              Plus, I'd imagine this thing would be a magnet for trouble at any TÜV inspection (hence affecting asking-price)...





              oh, and, dibs on the fog lights! ;D
              The fogs are crap lol picked them up from some guy with an Alpina Replica for 10 bucks. I had to cannibalize an OEM one that was cracked from the accident in order for them to work because he fudged up all the wiring inside of the other one. oh and I would feel sad if someone else was driving my car. I have a lot of time in that piece and alot of good memories of being stuck in ditches and tapping walls, going through fences lol.

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              • jhaurimn
                R3VLimited
                • Nov 2012
                • 2224

                #8
                Keep both. The m3 is an awesome daily but you can appreciate it more when switching back and forth. Plus that way if one car needs work done you still have another car to drive.

                E30+e46 is a great combo. I might be a little biased too though...

                Also, take care of your vanos, NOW. you'll thank me later.
                Current:
                1989 325i
                1988 M3
                1987 325ic
                Past:
                2001 330ci
                2001 M3

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                • duleymane///iS
                  Advanced Member
                  • Jun 2012
                  • 153

                  #9
                  Originally posted by jhaurimn
                  Keep both. The m3 is an awesome daily but you can appreciate it more when switching back and forth. Plus that way if one car needs work done you still have another car to drive.

                  E30+e46 is a great combo. I might be a little biased too though...

                  Also, take care of your vanos, NOW. you'll thank me later.
                  My thoughts exactly, although on snowy days I will be parking the M and driving the E30. And according to the paperwork the Inspection II was just preformed and they checked out the SMG and VANOS everything was good. thanks for the heads up those two words, VANOS and SMG scare me lol

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                  • Butler
                    E30 Mastermind
                    • Nov 2009
                    • 1613

                    #10
                    Congrats on the new car! I'm sure you're loving it.


                    Sell the E30. Walk away with whatever cash you can. Someone else will enjoy the E30 for years to come. I recently sold mine, so I know how you feel. The person I sold it to knew how much I loved that car and will continue to treat it right. Dont part it out, keep E30s on the road!
                    -Nick
                    Originally posted by 87e30
                    First of all: calm the fuck down; second of all; cool story bro.

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                    • dougie30
                      E30 Mastermind
                      • Apr 2012
                      • 1708

                      #11
                      Dont part it. Just sell it as a whole. Also nice fender bro

                      Sent from my SPH-L710 using Tapatalk 4
                      M30 is God's motor.....but Jesus drives an M60'd car -slammin.e28

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                      • word is bond
                        E30 Addict
                        • Apr 2012
                        • 503

                        #12
                        Sounds like a great car. Shame about the accident. You have a build thread or photos? would give us a better idea of whether it would sell better as a whole or parted out. Plus - as a 318is owner, I just wanna see my car's german brother with all those goodies!
                        diamantschwarz 1991 318is

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                        • E30 Wagen
                          No R3VLimiter
                          • Jul 2005
                          • 3425

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Butler
                          Dont part it out, keep E30s on the road!
                          My Feedback

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                          • duleymane///iS
                            Advanced Member
                            • Jun 2012
                            • 153

                            #14
                            Ok so what do you all think with this stuff done to it; is it worth?. It runs, very reliable, does sweet burnouts :nice: but it does have rust, I can get pictures up of the cancer. The thing is most military dudes don't want to buy a rusty car. Or have to work on anything while there here most are here for 2 or 3 yrs max. Although in 2015 this car will be eligible for import into the United States with nothing having to be done to the car. And its free for us.

                            Sad thing is I know I wont be able to get what I put into the car, well over 2,000. But could I at least get what I paid for it? I paid 2,000 USD for it about 2 years ago. Or am I gonna have to suck it up and get what I can?

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                            • duleymane///iS
                              Advanced Member
                              • Jun 2012
                              • 153

                              #15
                              Originally posted by word is bond
                              Sounds like a great car. Shame about the accident. You have a build thread or photos? would give us a better idea of whether it would sell better as a whole or parted out. Plus - as a 318is owner, I just wanna see my car's german brother with all those goodies!
                              Yeah no build thread. No photos really either maybe a few here and there.
                              Coilovers:

                              Race height for the ring :P

                              Working on it after the accident:

                              On the Ring:

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