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  • ptownTSI
    E30 Fanatic
    • Jun 2005
    • 1265

    #1

    oops, took driveshaft apart

    before i knew you arent supposed to take them apart, i did after i pulled it from the donor car without marking.

    what do i do now?

    if it needs to be rebalanced should i have the driveline shop install new u joints? i can have new u joints installed for $20 each x2 for whole shaft.
  • erik325i
    No R3VLimiter
    • Jan 2005
    • 3567

    #2
    The front a rear u-joint are supposed be lined up facing the same way, so even if you did not mark the driveshaft, there are only two ways the driveshaft can be facing. Flip a coin to decide which way to possition the driveshaft, and if it vibrates, pull it apart agin and rotate it 180*

    -Erik

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    • AndrewBird
      The Mad Scientist
      • Oct 2003
      • 11892

      #3
      Originally posted by erik325i
      The front a rear u-joint are supposed be lined up facing the same way, so even if you did not mark the driveshaft, there are only two ways the driveshaft can be facing. Flip a coin to decide which way to possition the driveshaft, and if it vibrates, pull it apart agin and rotate it 180*

      -Erik
      There are three ways it could be, not two. The transmission side of the shaft has three holes, not two.

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      • erik325i
        No R3VLimiter
        • Jan 2005
        • 3567

        #4
        Originally posted by NitroRustlerDriver
        There are three ways it could be, not two. The transmission side of the shaft has three holes, not two.
        YOu missed my point.

        Both U-joints have to face the same way. When you lay the driveshaft of the ground with one u-joint facing straight up, the other u-joint should also be facing straight up. I would say parrallell, but that is not the right word... It's kind of hard to describe, besides saying that both u-joints need to be facing the same way...

        -Erik

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        • AndrewBird
          The Mad Scientist
          • Oct 2003
          • 11892

          #5
          You missed my point. The transmission side of the shaft has to u-joint, only a 3-holed flange. This flange can lay flat in three different positions where as the rear has only two ways it can lay. Here:



          Rough drawing, but it gets the point. The front joint (Top in pic) can lay three ways. The rear (bottom pic) can lay two ways. So you have actually 6 ways the drive shaft can go together.

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          • echothreezero
            Member
            • Jan 2005
            • 85

            #6
            Erik is on the money - the flange rotation is irrelevant as you just turn the flanges they bolt to to line up the holes one you have the two halves together.

            The universals must be facing the opposite way - as they can only face the opposite way in two possible driveshaft configurations, you have two possible ways.

            Erik - if they were facing the same way they wouldn't cancel out the phenomena of the output speed of a u-joint varying from the input speed, rather it would exacerbate it.
            Last edited by echothreezero; 04-11-2006, 06:22 PM.

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            • echothreezero
              Member
              • Jan 2005
              • 85

              #7
              Look here for u-joint theory

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              • AndrewBird
                The Mad Scientist
                • Oct 2003
                • 11892

                #8
                Yes, but there is no universal at the transmission. That is what I'm saying. Only one at the diff.

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                • AndrewBird
                  The Mad Scientist
                  • Oct 2003
                  • 11892

                  #9
                  Ok, just had an epiphany. You guys are talking about the universal at the center support bearing lining up with the one at the diff, right? I was talking about the flange at the flex disk and the diff. If so, you guys are correct, those would have to line up. I was wrong.

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