Anyone have experience on the Pelican Parts forums?

[abrokenframe]

I'm on Pelican and 912bbs for my '68 daily. I rarely see anyone out of line. Many of those guys will lend you parts/tools/literature/rebuild DVD's if they get to know you well enough.

Most of them are DIYers and take it very seriously given the cost of some of their classics. Most of them know how to choose their battles and will farm out certain portions of their builds, such as turbos.

Remember, you could trade 10 maybe 20 shiny e30's for a 930. It's no surprise that they think sending a turbo out is money well spent and good advice for 99% of the population.

And to be honest, if I were buying a car and the guy told me he rebuilt the turbo himself, I'd get a little nervous.

Ryan

[camshaftgsxr]

That's funny, DSM guys have been rebuilding journal bearing turbos for years with no I'll effects as long as the components are individually ballanced. There are even 9 second holset powered dsm's that were rebuilt at home on a bench. I am speaking from experience, I have rebuilt a few myself, my last one has almost 30k miles on it at 25+ psi with no ill effects yet.

yeah, but Porsches' are special.

[justin_l_]

Look man, I understand that you're just trying to put everything back together, but that's not really good enough. You NEED to core balance the entire core assembly. It is not good enough to just individually balance the parts, they need to be balanced toegether as an assembly and that's just not something you can DIY

That's funny, DSM guys have been rebuilding journal bearing turbos for years with no I'll effects as long as the components are individually ballanced. There are even 9 second holset powered dsm's that were rebuilt at home on a bench. I am speaking from experience, I have rebuilt a few myself, my last one has almost 30k miles on it at 25+ psi with no ill effects yet.

[CorvallisBMW]

Look man, I understand that you're just trying to put everything back together, but that's not really good enough. You NEED to core balance the entire core assembly. It is not good enough to just individually balance the parts, they need to be balanced toegether as an assembly and that's just not something you can DIY.

From what I can see, it looks like your thrust washer is installed upside down (orientation is matters). The coking on the upper side in your pictures looks like it should be pointing down toward the core. I wouldn't expect to see that on the side that was in contact with the thrust bearing.

The little plug with the two sealing rings on it should be poking through the seal plate and the CW should run up against it. I'm thinking you're missing a spacer that goes under the large mating ring. The smaller side of the mating ring should go through the splash guard, but not be compressed against the thrust bearing.

However, without seeing an OEM assembly print of this turbo I can't say for sure how it's supposed to be assembled.

OK, well I can't have the CHRA balanced until it's assembled. So regardless of balancing requirements I still have to get the thing together, which is the point I was trying to make.

Thanks for the advice, I'll give it a shot.

[camshaftgsxr]

Typical Porsche owner answer, "don't do it yourself you imbecile! Send it to a professional! That's what I do, it only costs me about $500 or 25 minutes pay!"

There are plenty of turbo forums out there where you can get an answer without people trying to convince you to do something you can't afford or don't want to.

[DrJosh]

Oh haha. Yeah that is me. Sorry, I wasn't sure what you were talking about.

[brads2002]

Sorry didn't mean to sidetrack. Just wondering if you were Joshdub on Xoutpost.

[DrJosh]

What? I'm not sure why you quoted me, nor am I involved in the thread over on pelicanparts.

[brads2002]

AKA Joshdub?

Sounds like they are coming around. You presented the topic well. Keep at it.

You are correct. You did come in respectful in the original post. It's the posts after it that have the tone. I'd just ignore the suggestions of shipping it off and focus at the topic at hand. Other wise it ends up into a spiral of bickering, like you are experiencing. I'd also agree with the feeling that they don't know what they are doing and prefer to pay over learn, which is okay, just no productive when it comes to your topic. Those folks should have just stayed out of it.

[AndrewBird]

They sound like a bunch of tools that don't actually work on their cars and just fork over the money to have someone else fix it. All the knowledge they have is from what they've read on the internet or heard from others.

[DrJosh]

You are correct. You did come in respectful in the original post. It's the posts after it that have the tone. I'd just ignore the suggestions of shipping it off and focus at the topic at hand. Other wise it ends up into a spiral of bickering, like you are experiencing. I'd also agree with the feeling that they don't know what they are doing and prefer to pay over learn, which is okay, just no productive when it comes to your topic. Those folks should have just stayed out of it.

[citizen_insane]

Look man, I understand that you're just trying to put everything back together, but that's not really good enough. You NEED to core balance the entire core assembly. It is not good enough to just individually balance the parts, they need to be balanced toegether as an assembly and that's just not something you can DIY.

From what I can see, it looks like your thrust washer is installed upside down (orientation is matters). The coking on the upper side in your pictures looks like it should be pointing down toward the core. I wouldn't expect to see that on the side that was in contact with the thrust bearing.

The little plug with the two sealing rings on it should be poking through the seal plate and the CW should run up against it. I'm thinking you're missing a spacer that goes under the large mating ring. The smaller side of the mating ring should go through the splash guard, but not be compressed against the thrust bearing.

However, without seeing an OEM assembly print of this turbo I can't say for sure how it's supposed to be assembled.

[CorvallisBMW]

I saw it as well. While I get where you are going, that kind of tone coming from a new non make member doesn't usually get very far. I see those kind of responses everywhere.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/911-9...k27-turbo.html

You sound a like a bit of a know-it-all to be honest. I don't see anyone being a dick to you.

I guess I don't see it. I come in respectfully, show pictures of what's going on, explain the situation, and ask for help. What's wrong with that?

No I didn't want a bunch of "advice" from people just telling me to 'send it to a shop, there's nothing you can do'. That's clearly not what I was looking for and does nothing to answer my question. That kind of "advice" is so far off base it's essentially useless. What would r3v be like if every time someone here had a problem, we told them "just take it to the dealer, there's nothing you can do on your own and you'll fuck it up"??

Frankly I'm beginning to think I know more about this turbo than anyone on that site, as they all seem to just send it off to some shop and let someone else do all the work. They all claim they've never rebuilt a turbo, but somehow I'm the know-it-all for trying to do it myself?

[rturbo 930]

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/911-930-turbo-super-charging-forum/857790-help-rebuilding-stock-k27-turbo.html

You sound a like a bit of a know-it-all to be honest. I don't see anyone being a dick to you.

[BobombETA]

I suddenly have the urge to join and ask for advice swapping a carb'd SBC into a 944.