E36 Content, talk me into/out of this.

[CarsonE30]

Out of 8,610 E36 M3 Sedans in the US/Canada, 88 are Byzanz
Out of 5,300 E30 M3 in the US/Canada, 304 are Henna

So no, it's nothing like Henna.

Thank you, I wasn't patient enough to edit his response but thank you

[SickFinga]

Like henna, there are plenty of examples especially when you start looking for them.

Out of 8,610 E36 M3 Sedans in the US/Canada, 88 are Byzanz
Out of 5,300 E30 M3 in the US/Canada, 304 are Henna

So no, it's nothing like Henna.

[Javier h]

Byzanz Metallic

I have seen a few examples locally of Byzanz. Some for sale (when I was searching for an E36), others just cruising around town. Like henna, there are plenty of examples especially when you start looking for them. I am not convinced the color is sought after either. Some of these byzanz cars just sit for a while before selling. It's just a matter of personal taste. Like most, you discover the color by chance because you are searching for a specific make.

Mugello Rot I dont see often but looks more like hellrot.

http://www.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?1324170-e36-rare-colour-thread

Other colors that pop out:

Byzanz
Jet Black
Imola Red
Bright Red
Fern Green
Topaz Blue
Mystic Blue
Alpine White
Le Mans Blue
Boston Green
Dakar Yellow II
BMW Individual
British Racing Green
Avus Blue Metallic
Lauguna Seca Blue
Steel Gray Metallic
Estoril Blue Metallic
Silver Gray Metallic
Mystic Blue Metallic
Arctic Silver Metallic
Montrealblau Metallic
Techno Violet Metallic
Oxford Green Metallic
Carbon Black Metallic
Titanium Silver Metallic
Phoenix Yellow Metallic
Interlagos Blue Metallic

[Jon325i]

Ohmygodnofuck

Ha! I was just browsing my local CL and saw this ad - was thinking about posting it but you beat me to it. Too bad the seller isn't interested in trades, I would sign over the title to my Nissan Frontier without hesitation.


Jon

[CarsonE30]

Ill just leave this here for you people who missed out:

http://sacramento.craigslist.org/cto/5266626040.html

Ohmygodnofuck

[Rodoni]

Ill just leave this here for you people who missed out:

http://sacramento.craigslist.org/cto/5266626040.html

[CarsonE30]

no, I meant it was a BMW Individual color (special-order fanciness), but apparently it wasn't.

Ohhhhh gotcha

[kronus]

I think he means individual as in only these cars specifically were offered with it

no, I meant it was a BMW Individual color (special-order fanciness), but apparently it wasn't.

[CarsonE30]

1997 Model year is correct. It was only available on M3 Sedans. Canada did not get them.

US M3 Manual: 37 cars
US M3 Automatic: 51 cars
Euro M3 LHD: 23 cars
Euro M3 RHD: 9 cars




It was available outside Luxury package as well. There was no Champagne interior on the E36 M3 Sedan.
Pretty sure it has Grey Nappa Leather, but judging by the carpet it is not the original interior. I think it had Magma leather originally, since Modena was not available on Byzans cars.

There we go! As far as the interior, you are correct, it did not come from the factory with the champagne interior but the PO loved it so much, he got it redone professionally in that color. I applaud his taste!

[SickFinga]

Re: the Byzanz color....I did some Googling. Various speculation about the number of these made. What I did find out it was offered in 1997 only. As for as the number with the color, best guesses seem to be around 200 tops. About 1/4 of them came with a manual. So if anyone finds a Byzanz E36 with a factory manual gearbox.....buy it!


Jon

1997 Model year is correct. It was only available on M3 Sedans. Canada did not get them.

US M3 Manual: 37 cars
US M3 Automatic: 51 cars
Euro M3 LHD: 23 cars
Euro M3 RHD: 9 cars

Yeah I found out it was 1997 sedan lux package cars only and only US market. Even less with the champagne interior, even less less with the brown carpet.

It was available outside Luxury package as well. There was no Champagne interior on the E36 M3 Sedan.
Pretty sure it has Grey Nappa Leather, but judging by the carpet it is not the original interior. I think it had Magma leather originally, since Modena was not available on Byzans cars.

[CarsonE30]

Byzanz is not an Individual color. It is definitely a unique and an uncommon color, but I wouldn't call it a desirable color.

I think he means individual as in only these cars specifically were offered with it

[SickFinga]

that is not a custom color, it is a desirable, rare factory BMW individual color called Byzanz. I really like it, here's the M3 I used to own:

Byzanz is not an Individual color. It is definitely a unique and an uncommon color, but I wouldn't call it a desirable color.

[CarsonE30]

Re: the Byzanz color....I did some Googling. Various speculation about the number of these made. What I did find out it was offered in 1997 only. As for as the number with the color, best guesses seem to be around 200 tops. About 1/4 of them came with a manual. So if anyone finds a Byzanz E36 with a factory manual gearbox.....buy it!


Jon

Yeah I found out it was 1997 sedan lux package cars only and only US market. Even less with the champagne interior, even less less with the brown carpet.

[Jon325i]

Re: the Byzanz color....I did some Googling. Various speculation about the number of these made. What I did find out it was offered in 1997 only. As for as the number with the color, best guesses seem to be around 200 tops. About 1/4 of them came with a manual. So if anyone finds a Byzanz E36 with a factory manual gearbox.....buy it!


Jon

[BobombETA]

If and when you get ready to do the swap on another car, get the detents and 1 gear issue sorted, if it hasn't been done already.

There were 2 recalls on these transmissions. The 5th gear lean being the most infamous. You can live with them both but better to repair them when its off the car.

Wait there was a recall for the 5th gear lean issue?