New supra

[jeenyus]

Same amount of ugly, 1,000lb more weight. No thanks on either count. Toyota/Lexus doesn't currently make a single good looking car, the current Lexus design scheme seems to be "make it huge and really aggressive looking!" Seeing an LC500 in person it's staggering how heavy the car is, sure it's big but it isn't big enough that it screams "4,400lbs." Somehow they've managed to make a coupe that is visibly smaller and slower than the notoriously porky Dodge Challenger weigh more!

Every American car could take a diet of at least 500 pounds in body panels alone. I guess it's NBD though because that's nothing new.

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[varg]

You can always buy a "Supra" emblem and slap it on a LC500.

Same amount of ugly, 1,000lb more weight. No thanks on either count. Toyota/Lexus doesn't currently make a single good looking car, the current Lexus design scheme seems to be "make it huge and really aggressive looking!" Seeing an LC500 in person it's staggering how heavy the car is, sure it's big but it isn't big enough that it screams "4,400lbs." Somehow they've managed to make a coupe that is visibly smaller and slower than the notoriously porky Dodge Challenger weigh more!

[Melon]

No manual, no care.

[kickinindian]

idc because i will probably not be able to own one for the next 20yrs and by then gas will probably illegal, i feel the toyobaru twins is where i'm headed in the next couple years since they should be in a pretty decent price range and obviously have a modding culture already.

on the Zupra i think it has the old supra proportions dolled up in a europeen power suit because VeemdoubleU of the 21st century builds spaceships not cars.

[lukeADE335i]

Oh you mean this grille?

lol... no, I'd avoid that one - after the Z4 first edition, the lower spec cars should come with the normal vertical bars in the grille if the car shows are anything to go by - they look a lot better.

Still - I'd take the Mustang over the Supra too as Jeenyus has pointed out, with either the 5.0 or the ecoboost (I test drove both, and have to admit that as a daily, coming from 20 years of driving european cars, the ecoboost had plenty of grunt for a daily drive and the lack of V8 noise didn't bother me like it has the purists).

[MrBurgundy]

I would get a mustang gt PP2 over this any day for the price.

[jeenyus]

The new Supra, IMO, is a massive design failure.

But, I'm not surprised, because current Japanese auto makers don't really make anything that looks nice..

I don't get why toyota/lexus likes to use 15 different front grills on one car.

Lol you're so right. I would disagree on NO current Japanese cars looking good. The new NSX has one of the best side profiles I've ever seen. That's just my opinion though.

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[MrBurgundy]

The new Supra, IMO, is a massive design failure.

But, I'm not surprised, because current Japanese auto makers don't really make anything that looks nice..

I don't get why toyota/lexus likes to use 15 different front grills on one car.

[jeenyus]

But it's so current, how could it possibly be ugly? I mean, the focus groups composed of blind 10 year olds all loved it!

Does this indicate I'm aging? Or is it really that bad?

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[roguetoaster]

Look at this thing. It's so ugly. The front end is an overly designed Miata. Look at the headlights with the little donkey dick at the middle. Look at the weird fuckin' nose.

I cannot believe after 20 years, this is the best they could come up with.

But it's so current, how could it possibly be ugly? I mean, the focus groups composed of blind 10 year olds all loved it!

[jeenyus]

Look at this thing. It's so ugly. The front end is an overly designed Miata. Look at the headlights with the little donkey dick at the middle. Look at the weird fuckin' nose.

I cannot believe after 20 years, this is the best they could come up with.

[jeenyus]

It would be neat-er if they engineered the chassis to accept an LS and tremec.

LS swap the world

N54 your Plymouth. They are so hot right now.

[zwill23]

lol, this is great. I really wish they made the car more sleek and less wannabe.

With every post Jalopnik releases about the supra the taste in my mouth is growing more sour...

[DrJosh]

It would be neat-er if they engineered the chassis to accept an LS and tremec.

LS swap the world

[jeenyus]

That's not my point though. Regardless of my opinion of the 2JZ, it would be neat if Toyota engineered the chassis to accept retrofitting the engine into the new car. Then the icing on the cake would be to offer desperately offer an "offroad" only kit engine with maybe some updated tweaks (not hampered by smog standards).

No, it may not make sense from some perspectives, but it would appeal to a large number of enthusiasts while simultaneously avoiding emissions regulations.

I think this is a great idea! If only car manufactures actually cared about the enthusiast community. I'd say that BMW did at some point, but now I don't get that same impression.