Did Turner buy ECS Tuning?

[dude8383]

Surprised no-one has mentioned that ECS is now charging full retail for OEM BMW parts. That was never the case before the acquisition. I used to get super fast shipping from them - often next day since they're close. 3-5 days now

I certainly don't buy OEM parts from them anymore.

Not everything is full retail. The small nuts/bolts hardware is but I still see stuff ranging from 10-15% off list.

[ForcedFirebird]

Champcar hasn't changed a whole lot as a venue, but the drivers/teams have gotten a lot more serious in the last couple years. Local team TLM brought 4 or 5 e46's, couple of them m3's to the NEw Year Sebring event. We still run e30's, have 2 going next week to Road Atlanta. Think I started with them around '13.

EDIT: Just realized this is a thread about ECS, also had the nonsense open lol. Totally off topic.

[agent]

As far as I know that's not the case on the East coast, but then again my primary job on the team is "driver." The real whining seems to be predominantly on their forums. I started in '15 as well.

[kronus]

Not sure where you were racing in '15, but we were having lots of fun on the right coast. Of course it's now Champ Car because they're upscale or something.

west coast. the racing itself was ok, maybe a bit aggro, but all the event organization was run like a PTA meeting and extra-whiny as a result.

[roguetoaster]

is chump still as anti-fun as it was in 2015? (my first and last chump race)

Not sure where you were racing in '15, but we were having lots of fun on the right coast. Of course it's now Champ Car because they're upscale or something.

[bradnic]

Surprised no-one has mentioned that ECS is now charging full retail for OEM BMW parts. That was never the case before the acquisition. I used to get super fast shipping from them - often next day since they're close. 3-5 days now

I certainly don't buy OEM parts from them anymore.

[kronus]

is chump still as anti-fun as it was in 2015? (my first and last chump race)

[roguetoaster]

Same here. Last year, I was seriously considering changing the name of our Champcar team to “ECS Tuning sucks a fat dick”

I think that's more of a 24 Hours of Lemons thing, but it would be a good one.

[BillBrasky]

I've been saying ECS sucks for years - welcome to the bandwagon. :p

Same here. Last year, I was seriously considering changing the name of our Champcar team to “ECS Tuning sucks a fat dick”

[jeenyus]

it's a waste of money if you have a 3-stage manifold and an otherwise stock engine - because it won't make power above 7k anyway. BPC already proved the N52 can rev safely past 8k, but I'd like *some* safety margin.

and yeah, my E30 is a toy, so I'll probably bang the rev limiter every time I drive it. :)

(also this is waaaay OT).

OT sure... But we've all voiced our opinion on ECS at this point. LoL. Thanks for the response.

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[nando]

it's a waste of money if you have a 3-stage manifold and an otherwise stock engine - because it won't make power above 7k anyway. BPC already proved the N52 can rev safely past 8k, but I'd like *some* safety margin.

and yeah, my E30 is a toy, so I'll probably bang the rev limiter every time I drive it. :)

(also this is waaaay OT).

[jeenyus]

because I'm building my N52 for the E30 to have an 8k redline ;)

I doubt they sell a lot of them. Fortunately it also fits the N54, so there's at least some demand.

When will the ATi be necessary though? Probably not till after 7k I feel. How often will you realistically be shifting at 8k? Not that I don't see it's potential benefit of your engine being sound with the ATi and maybe peace of mind, but I saw an older post where you said it was a waste of money. I'm just trying to understand.

I'm coming to you for my N52 tune after I upgrade my intake manifold and if you say this ATi is a good investment for the N52 I need to fully understand your wisdom. :)

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[nando]

because I'm building my N52 for the E30 to have an 8k redline ;)

I doubt they sell a lot of them. Fortunately it also fits the N54, so there's at least some demand.

[jeenyus]

I believe so - I really need to get their ATI damper for the N5x before it goes NLA..

Do you suspect it will be NLA? Also can you explain why you'd shell out 800 for a harmonic balancer? I'm trying to understand the real world benefit of this part other than freeing up HP and helping in racecar status.

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[nando]

real quick is VAC still good? I'm planning to spend a large amount of money with them and don't want chinashit products

I believe so - I really need to get their ATI damper for the N5x before it goes NLA..