How important is a torque wrench?

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  • euroshark
    No R3VLimiter
    • Apr 2006
    • 3491

    #16
    I'm gonna say NO, you do not need a torque wrench to do most jobs that do not involve internal compnents, suspension, or wheels. Why? Because most everything is either a bolt going into aluminum or into the iron block. When tightening bolts into aluminum, just like ^^ he said, you have to feel it. Don't overtighten, because if you do, the bolt won't generally break, the aluminum that you are putting the bolt into WILL. With aluminum, "tight" is good, it doesn't have to be so tight that you can not move it anymore when you wail on it!

    Into iron, it's kind of the same thing. The iron blocks can break in some areas if you tighten fastners too much, but it can also destroy even high brade hardware, just depends on the day I guess! Same basic rule though, tight is good, it doesn't have to be set in stone!

    If you were dealing with rod bearings, you'd need a torque wrench, because its a precise job. But seriously, hardware and stuff on the outside of the motor is 99.99999% of the time ok to judge by hand, it's just not precision stuff!

    When my dad used to build dragsters, the crew chief he worked with always said: "Tight is tight. Too tight is fucking broke!" , I think thats good to remember for any automotive job... just keep that in mind. You don't need a torque wrench to do a timing belt. ;)
    '88 528e /// '88 M5 /// '89 951 /// '98 E430 /// '02 M5

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    • DanGillan
      R3V Elite
      • Mar 2004
      • 4061

      #17
      you're an idiot. i guess you can never teach an ignorant person the importance of something.
      Dan

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      • DanGillan
        R3V Elite
        • Mar 2004
        • 4061

        #18
        Originally posted by euroshark
        But seriously, hardware and stuff on the outside of the motor is 99.99999% of the time ok to judge by hand, it's just not precision stuff!
        fucking RETARD
        Dan

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        • browntown
          No R3VLimiter
          • Jun 2004
          • 3524

          #19
          those needle style torque wrenches work fine, go to sears and buy one. They're cheap, and a whole lot better than nothing at all.

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          • misterlance
            Advanced Member
            • Nov 2005
            • 170

            #20
            Buy a torque wrench. Understand that most bolts on a BMW are designed to snap at a certain point as to not destroy the Alum and Iron being bolted to.

            Snapping bolts is by far the most irritating thing to happen while working on a BMW. Doing everything you can to avoid this until you are experienced, would be wise.

            IMO.

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            • E30 Reaktionär
              Site Manager
              • Aug 2006
              • 14451

              #21
              i'd say no, unless you are the Incredible Hulk and like to overtighten everything

              1992 BMW 325iC
              1978 Chevrolet Monte Carlo
              1965 Chevrolet Corvair Monza 140hp

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              • ldsbeaker
                No R3VLimiter
                • Aug 2004
                • 3098

                #22
                Buy two. One for the low range, one for the high. You might spend $150 at Sears. whoopty doo. Just think of how many times you've had to do something again because you grrrr'd it up the first time. Do it right the first time, and leave it at that.

                p.s. never loan them out. They will come back to you tightened to the highest setting, and looking like an elephant sat on them.
                Slicktop City!

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                • Simon S
                  No R3VLimiter
                  • Oct 2004
                  • 3758

                  #23
                  Originally posted by browntown
                  those needle style torque wrenches work fine, go to sears and buy one. They're cheap, and a whole lot better than nothing at all.
                  second this. A beam style is great for beginners - it will at least begin to teach you how certian torque values feel
                  -----Zen and the Art of e30 Maintenance - / - Zen TOC - / - Zen Summary

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                  • kansas-ix
                    E30 Mastermind
                    • Jan 2004
                    • 1600

                    #24
                    Important enough to be on your X-mas list!
                    E30 325ix 62k

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                    • DarkWing6
                      Moderator
                      • Apr 2004
                      • 7144

                      #25
                      Originally posted by MR 325
                      I've done my cars without one, nothing has exploded.
                      Except for belts on the freeway with other people driving. :D
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                      • LINUS
                        R3VLimited
                        • Jul 2004
                        • 2422

                        #26
                        You're already saving a boatload of cash working on your own car, so spend some of that money on a real torque wrench so you don't have to pay a mechanic to re-fix your car for you later.
                        Beams are **fine**, but you sometimes need the ratchet action in places, at least I do because I really only like 6 point sockets. I own some 12's, but they are all in my travel toolbox.

                        But quit being such a cheapass, get a torque wrench.

                        It's not how you handle the good times, but the faith you keep in the bad that defines you.

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