Soooo, anyone familar with Indiana traffic laws.

[O 16581 72452 5]

I found more grounds for dismissal, i read my speeding ticket and he did not list how he determined my speed. It simply says "Speed" and in the slots says "86" and "55", from what i've so far been reading, it must say "Paced", "Radar", etc.

The friend thing was an old example of how they nailed me for bigger fines, i paid them and didn't bother with court, it hurt the pockets, but i didn't want to deal with showing to court 4-5 hours away.

[O 16581 72452 5]

I'm brain storming some ideas on points i can make, if anyone would like to make better points, please add to it.

I don't think the wrong zip code will dismiss the ticket, but i will bring up there's no measuring device listed that determined my speed and ask the cop what he used to measure my speed. If he says "Radar" i will say "Seems like you have trouble writing down proper numbers, my zip code is not 47804, perhaps you wrote down the wrong number from your radar."

[O 16581 72452 5]

I've found further information about fighting traffic tickets, every state is entitled to "Trial by Written Declaration", i can simply write a letter to the judge and he's then required to send the police officer a request for his side of the story through the mail. Usually cops are paid overtime for going to court and their pay is basically that of a lawyer ($200-$300 for showing up for about an hour). When writing this letter in the mail though, they're not paid for it and usually not motivated to write a reply, if it's not received by the deadline, it's dismissed.

[turbo_negro69]

whatever you do i wish you luck:)

[O 16581 72452 5]

I've been doing nothing but reading about this for four hours, haha, i'm beginning to wonder if the part about it being in all states being not true on the one page i read. Seems all pages with information on the Trial by Declaration is only in California.

This is good shit though.

[golde30]

Last ticket I got while a cop was pacing me was dropped because thats not a real method to determine speed.
I think having a lawyer, and being able to produce a copy of your friends ticket will be able to create some questions (Like why is everyone speeding at EXACTLY enough to get bumped up into a bigger ticket when there isn't even a radar gun)

In CA the highway patrol is only allowed to pace you on the highways or freeways, they dont even use radar guns unless its a backroad highway.

[Dave]

Yeah, that incorrect zip code and maybe a coffee stain on the citation ought to get you a walk in the park. I read it on the internet. Why talk to a lawyer?

Let us know how that works out.

[808BMW]

I've found further information about fighting traffic tickets, every state is entitled to "Trial by Written Declaration", i can simply write a letter to the judge and he's then required to send the police officer a request for his side of the story through the mail. Usually cops are paid overtime for going to court and their pay is basically that of a lawyer ($200-$300 for showing up for about an hour). When writing this letter in the mail though, they're not paid for it and usually not motivated to write a reply, if it's not received by the deadline, it's dismissed.

Admittedly, I was doing about 110-115 in a 35. (for all you pansies, it was a deserted road, I don't want to hear it).
Cops were waiting at a speedtrap, but I guess they were all stoned or something because they didn't have a radar gun going. It's pretty easy to tell if someone is speeding though, so a cop immediately pulled out and followed me (I had already slowed down to the speed limit). He pulled me over, and when he said I was speeding I asked how fast. He said he paced me and I was doing over the speed limit.

Wrote a letter asking how you can use a non-calibrated car to pace another non-calibrated car (no speedometer is exactly right, in any car) and that there is no clue as to how fast I was driving.

Ticket got dropped ;)

[turbo_negro69]

Admittedly, I was doing about 110-115 in a 35. (for all you pansies, it was a deserted road, I don't want to hear it).
Cops were waiting at a speedtrap, but I guess they were all stoned or something because they didn't have a radar gun going. It's pretty easy to tell if someone is speeding though, so a cop immediately pulled out and followed me (I had already slowed down to the speed limit). He pulled me over, and when he said I was speeding I asked how fast. He said he paced me and I was doing over the speed limit.

Wrote a letter asking how you can use a non-calibrated car to pace another non-calibrated car (no speedometer is exactly right, in any car) and that there is no clue as to how fast I was driving.

Ticket got dropped ;)

lucky:roll:

[erik325i]

The incorrect zipcode is nothing, but I'm curious why he didn't make you sign the ticket.

When you sign the ticket, you are accually signing a "Promise to appear" in court by a certain date.
The ticket you recieve in the mail is simply a "courtesy notice".
I'm wonding if the ticket is still valid without having your signature...

-Erik

[Rennsport]

i got my last ticket dropped because it didnt have any speed written on it. it just said "speed over highway speeds" (i was doing 82 in a 60) in the cops hand writing

[O 16581 72452 5]

The incorrect zipcode is nothing, but I'm curious why he didn't make you sign the ticket.

When you sign the ticket, you are accually signing a "Promise to appear" in court by a certain date.
The ticket you recieve in the mail is simply a "courtesy notice".
I'm wonding if the ticket is still valid without having your signature...

-Erik

Exactly what i'm thinking, he never asked me to sign it and from my reading a refusal to sign it is automatic arrest.

[turbo_negro69]

Exactly what i'm thinking, he never asked me to sign it and from my reading a refusal to sign it is automatic arrest.

yup refusal to sign is an automatic arrest. maybe youll get lucky and it'll get dropped

[Dave]

Please, keep 'em coming.

[O 16581 72452 5]

Just please keep in mind to anyone reading this, this is just information i've gathered from the internet, i cannot say if it's true or false, i'll keep updated though.