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  • Group A
    Wrencher
    • Feb 2006
    • 201

    #1

    F20C powered E36



    e36 318is with a F20C out of a S2000

    cool swap but waste of money IMO. for what they probably spent on the swap they could've built a M50 and put it in. or put in a S50 or S52.

    what are you guy's opinion?

    heres a few translations some guy posted on the youtube comment (i dont know how accurate the translation is though since i dont speak japanese):

    - The swap can be done for about 1,800,000 yen (almost CAN$18,000) including the parts.

    - The drift king guy (forgot his name) said it's amazingly fast and he highly recommends it / worh the money! Real fun to drive.

    - The owner had a 4 cyl bmw that was just too slow so he decided to swap with the 2sk engine. He is now a legit tuner (IMPACT) that swaps various motors in bmw. He liked the swap into the 4 cyl bmw as it has the HACHIROKU (ae86) feel. I am assuming light car with peppy engine?
    Last edited by Group A; 03-01-2007, 11:16 AM.
  • Jean
    Moderator
    • Aug 2006
    • 18228

    #2
    Good engine, great tranny, but it would have been cooler in e30 imho

    I love how the engine just revs and pulls forever. Tranny is so sick also, almost no play in it and short shifting.
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    • RedHoodRidah
      E30 Enthusiast
      • Feb 2006
      • 1096

      #3
      Total waste, that engine even looks disgusting inside the bay. Did you take a look at the ricer muffler?? lol Its got the JDM angle. Does the hood close without hitting the valve cover because it looks like it will.
      92 Granite Silver Vert
      M60B40 5spd

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      • SpecM
        R3V Elite
        • Oct 2005
        • 4531

        #4
        -But they put that great engine/tranny into a heavy (er) chassis (than both an e30 or s2k). I'm sure the Honda would still be faster/handle better/be better looking imo.
        1989 cirrisblau-metallic 325i

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        • equate975
          No R3VLimiter
          • Jun 2004
          • 3382

          #5
          Yeah thats really a waste and stupid. I can think of 10 billion other things I could spend 15k on a BMW instead of a s2k engine. FI from the m50 for half of that 15k probably would have made more power than the s2k, hell if you really wanted a 4cyl you could have put a s14 in....

          Japanese people are stupid
          Rollin' with a Geistkuchen

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          • Group A
            Wrencher
            • Feb 2006
            • 201

            #6
            Originally posted by equate975
            Japanese people are stupid

            chill man...lol

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            • backtrail69
              R3V Elite
              • Jul 2005
              • 4471

              #7
              Looks like a really fun car.
              :: PNW Crew ::
              '87 325 4dr, '74 2002

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              • Stu Mc
                R3V Elite
                • Oct 2003
                • 4083

                #8
                Surprised at the comments. An F20 is substantially lighter than an M42, and probably saves well over 100 pounds of weight over the front subframe compared to an M/S50. That coupled with 9000 useable revs must be a hoot to drive!

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                • Jean
                  Moderator
                  • Aug 2006
                  • 18228

                  #9
                  Originally posted by equate975
                  Yeah thats really a waste and stupid. I can think of 10 billion other things I could spend 15k on a BMW instead of a s2k engine. FI from the m50 for half of that 15k probably would have made more power than the s2k, hell if you really wanted a 4cyl you could have put a s14 in....

                  Japanese people are stupid
                  Umm yeah s14 over f20c ?
                  Mtech1 v8 build thread - https://www.r3vlimited.com/board/sho...d.php?t=413205



                  OEM v8 manual chip or dme - https://www.r3vlimited.com/board/sho....php?p=4938827

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                  • McCoolidge
                    Wrencher
                    • Aug 2006
                    • 226

                    #10
                    It would be alot cooler if the hood fit.

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                    • silversleeper
                      R3VLimited
                      • Mar 2005
                      • 2032

                      #11
                      Give the guys credit for going where no man dares to venture. Gotta love the RPM gauge running sinking to the bottom!

                      Oh, UPSKIRT FTMFW!!!!
                      Claus Luthe is my hero.

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                      • whakiewes
                        Banned
                        • Nov 2003
                        • 261

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Stu Mc
                        Surprised at the comments. An F20 is substantially lighter than an M42, and probably saves well over 100 pounds of weight over the front subframe compared to an M/S50. That coupled with 9000 useable revs must be a hoot to drive!
                        Definantly would agree with this. Other than the lothargicness of the engine around town, there are few cars I enjoy driving more than an S2000. The fact that Honda also built a mass production engine that turns 9k is amazing as well. Limited production engines are one thing, but just about any kid with good credit can drive an S2000 now and they still do run! I don't know that I would have put that engine in an E36, but an old MGB or Triumph would be a serious machine! Owned an E30 M3 as well, and I can tell you no S14 without $30k invested in the engine has the feel/fun factor of a VTec Honda engine!

                        FWIW - F20C is about 220lbs dry with no accessories based on a quick search of HondaTech. That would make it only slightly less than BMW's engine choices.

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                        • Jean
                          Moderator
                          • Aug 2006
                          • 18228

                          #13
                          Originally posted by whakiewes
                          Definantly would agree with this. Other than the lothargicness of the engine around town, there are few cars I enjoy driving more than an S2000. The fact that Honda also built a mass production engine that turns 9k is amazing as well. Limited production engines are one thing, but just about any kid with good credit can drive an S2000 now and they still do run! I don't know that I would have put that engine in an E36, but an old MGB or Triumph would be a serious machine! Owned an E30 M3 as well, and I can tell you no S14 without $30k invested in the engine has the feel/fun factor of a VTec Honda engine!

                          FWIW - F20C is about 220lbs dry with no accessories based on a quick search of HondaTech. That would make it only slightly less than BMW's engine choices.
                          Or something like this ;)






                          Mtech1 v8 build thread - https://www.r3vlimited.com/board/sho...d.php?t=413205



                          OEM v8 manual chip or dme - https://www.r3vlimited.com/board/sho....php?p=4938827

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                          • Bill 84 318i
                            E30 Mastermind
                            • Oct 2003
                            • 1600

                            #14
                            Yeah, the F20C is a fucking sick motor (alright, no torque can get a little old)...but I wouldn't want it in an e36. What's the point, to have a backseat? That's literally the only downside to an S2000.

                            I took mine to 9k every single day for a year, and it had perfect 220 compression across all 4 cylinders when I sold it. Fantastic powerplant.

                            I miss it.

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                            • mazur
                              Mod Crazy
                              • Jan 2006
                              • 731

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Jean
                              Or something like this ;)





                              Now that's the shit. Wouldn't really want that motor in anything else, personally.

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