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liquid dynamics mmmm.
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the 'wave' of the future.
this hybrid/e85 shit is dumbasfuck. hydrogen is where its at for the future!
kyle1988 M3, 97 840, 99 XJ
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I saw a complete truckload of these several months ago on the highway in the mountains around Ashville, N.C. I was on my way to get a 5 speed swap in S.C. when I passed them going into the Ashville area. They were badass looking and I wish I would have had a camera on me at the time to get a picture of them to contribute
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I missed my opportunity to get an up-close look at one. Last Friday, I got sent to training at BMW's training center in Ontario (California). Someone from BMW NA drove one to the training center, and everyone got to look at it except for my class. I was stuck in the shop learning about boring N54s, and I could see through the windows of the roll-up doors that there was a crowd outside looking at something, but I couldn't see what it was. I found out during lunch that it was a Hydrogen 7. Argh!sigpicComment
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Hydrogen would be more environmentally friendly and it would be a better solution in the long run, but we are so far away from actually having hydrogen cars on the road. Ethanol is where its going to be, currently its a hell of a lot cheaper and easier to deal with and it can be a near direct replacement for gasoline, they can even use the same pumps and storage tanks at the gas station that were being used for gasoline. I just don't see hydrogen catching on anytime soon especially with all the money thats being put into ethanol right now.Comment
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Hydrogen can be a replacement for gasoline, too. You can use a normal internal combustion engine design to run on hydrogen. the storage isn't too different than gasoline or ethanol, just needs to be better insulated. plus, you can make way more power on hydrogen than you can on gas.......woot!
ofcourse it will take time, but i think it will be a huge solution to our current problems. I doubt we'll run out of oil for production of gasoline anytime soon, but the hydrogen will be in full swing way before that happens.
kyle1988 M3, 97 840, 99 XJ
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hydrogen doesn't have the energy density (a gallon of gasoline contains substantially more energy that can be readily converted to forward motion than hydrogen) of other liquid-type fuels. Also, to keep the tank in the 30-gallon range and not the 300-gallon range, it must be liquified and kept at a temperature at -437 degrees farenheit, and it still is not as dense as gasoline.
Jet packs have been made too, but I still walk everywhere... maybe when we find ways around pesky things like Thermodynamics and the laws of economic, these will be practical for the average personsigpic89 M3Comment
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Is there any prediction as to when they will be for sale, if they are already producing them? Isn't the only hydrogen "gas station" station in Washington, D.C. damn I'm so curious about emComment
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hmmm....Comment
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The use of hydrogen can potentially result to a world war. Or ethanol (I believe that comes from corn?) for that matter. Once we stop using petroleum products from the "arabic" countries, they will have no reason to be buddy buddy with us any longer... the countries that are now at least.
A totally different topic, but just food for thought on that one.Originally posted by bluntComment
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my neighbor got to drive one he liked it alot , he didn't even know the car was running it was that quiet. the ad was very cool , If we had Venezuelan gas prices i'm sure hydrogen would not even be a concern;)Comment
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They've had these things for at least 5 years now on the previous gen of the 7-series. It's all a bunch of hot air. Hydrogen technology doesn't work and nobody knows how it could work. The people that say it can are just being hopeful. We don't actually have the technology yet for it to be a good idea. It's all BS. Hydrogen is not clean. The pollution is just created at the plant where the hydrogen is produced. It doesn't get eliminated, just moved further up in the production line. They have plans to cleanly produce hydrogen by having piggy-back systems on nuclear plants and things like that. But no clean large scale solutions exist. Methods to develop hydrogen using micro-organisms or 97-step transition metal catalyzed reactions are being studied. But they're just being studied. None of the crap is even close to guaranteed to work.
It's just good PR for BMW.
Daily drive a civic or prius you guys. We don't have to actually use hydrogen to be independent of foreign oils, everyone just has to drive cars with >40 mpg.Comment
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