Is this shell too far gone?

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  • Brinkley
    Grease Monkey
    • Jul 2007
    • 379

    #1

    Is this shell too far gone?

    Hey all I'm in the middle of a big swap, and I'm at that point where ive stripped the car down pretty good and I'm wondering if this damage here in the passenger wheel well is too much to fix. the car is in overall good shape except for this. I'm think that the rust would have to be grinded away and a patch welded in. Has anyone done this kind of repair I want to do it right no 1/2 ass'n





    the shell is in good shape and im pretty far into this i would rather not bail, but if this cant be fixed i will.
    I don't think your mom appreciates the value of those modifications
  • bimmer8604
    No R3VLimiter
    • Nov 2003
    • 3017

    #2
    it can probably be fixed, just make sure to cut out enough of it and you should probably replace that fender.

    kyle
    1988 M3, 97 840, 99 XJ
    DILLIGAF

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    • Mike325
      No R3VLimiter
      • Mar 2006
      • 3685

      #3
      I have had some rust there similar to what you have. You need to cut out all the old, rusty metal first. Then make a patch out of some 1/8th inch or so metal and have it welded in. Then prime and under coat the new metal. I would suggest using POR15 on the edges of the new hole you cut out, just for added security.

      PS, move your jack stands in the front onto the frame rails, not where you had them on the fenders.
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      • Brinkley
        Grease Monkey
        • Jul 2007
        • 379

        #4
        yea i got to angle grinding tonight, looks better than i thought, but cutting the old metal out and welding in new metal are 2 different things.
        Where would i get "metal" to weld in, my buddy has some welding experience even into tig but not on anything this thin he's concerned about it.
        I don't think your mom appreciates the value of those modifications

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        • ///meric
          Advanced Member
          • Jun 2004
          • 124

          #5
          what are u a waffleswaffleswaffleswaffleswaffles. my car had way more rust then that
          I wanna go Fast

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          • Bill-B
            E30 Fanatic
            • Apr 2007
            • 1242

            #6
            Originally posted by ///meric
            what are u a waffleswaffleswaffleswaffleswaffles. my car had way more rust then that

            Originally posted by NavyE30
            I saw Vlad was posting and got excited. Then I saw there weren't any boobs and was sad.

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            • ddavidv
              Grease Monkey
              • Aug 2006
              • 344

              #7
              Auto body supply places carry sheet metal. The nice thing about repairs in that area is they don't have to be pretty. ;) Big ugly welds are easily hidden by a little grinding and liberal use of seam sealer and undercoat. I would not trash the shell for that. A gas shielded MIG welder should do the trick. The hardest part is a) cutting out the rusted crap completely and b) fabbing the pieces to fit in there.
              Last edited by ddavidv; 10-19-2007, 03:19 AM. Reason: speeling
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              • mikeedler
                R3V OG
                • Feb 2004
                • 6707

                #8
                that is really nothing for a person that can weld--doesnt even have to be a good welder. I have repaired spots 1000000 times worse than that on many cars here in Germany.

                looks like some fine U.S. body work. someone just slapped some bondo over a hole at one time.


                from this:


                to this-- and this is no finishing(grinding) at all on the welding.

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                • Brinkley
                  Grease Monkey
                  • Jul 2007
                  • 379

                  #9
                  thanks guys for the advice i got to cleaning it up today
                  I don't think your mom appreciates the value of those modifications

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                  • Brinkley
                    Grease Monkey
                    • Jul 2007
                    • 379

                    #10
                    Ok got the carpet peeled back ( dont get me started on the overengineering that went into the carpet ) its looking like it will be ugly and take forever but I think it can be done. Heres some real rust for you guys my car is no slouch it has rusted like a champ!


                    I don't think your mom appreciates the value of those modifications

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                    • ptownTSI
                      E30 Fanatic
                      • Jun 2005
                      • 1265

                      #11
                      that is not bad at all, you just need some sheet metal and shape it the approximate dimensions of that hole. you don't need to grind off surface rust like that either. coat with por15 and be done.

                      i suggest you go buy a book on metal working for cars.

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                      • Brinkley
                        Grease Monkey
                        • Jul 2007
                        • 379

                        #12
                        lol well a lot of that isnt just surface rust there will have to be several patches to properly seal this baby up
                        I don't think your mom appreciates the value of those modifications

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                        • Brinkley
                          Grease Monkey
                          • Jul 2007
                          • 379

                          #13
                          what do you guys think cut out several small patches and weld them or just cut out the pan and replace the whole thing?
                          I don't think your mom appreciates the value of those modifications

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                          • BDSax
                            Junkyard King
                            • Mar 2006
                            • 3593

                            #14
                            go to a junkyard and cut out a piece from a car that has a good floor, reweld it in.
                            NEED SOME VINYL STICKERS???

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                            • Brinkley
                              Grease Monkey
                              • Jul 2007
                              • 379

                              #15
                              yea ive thought about that, but i bet any junkyard around here would have had the car open to the elements for years now probably worse than mine
                              I don't think your mom appreciates the value of those modifications

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