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[uofom3]

He beat me to it. Absolutely NO change in suspension performance, other than greatly increased body roll. The Prokit is nothing more than a looks lowering kit. I would have thought you'd go with something a little better quality.

easy big fella's, easy. There is ALWAYS a better solution. My group G's with konis and everything else is still garbage compared to a DTM all AL suspension... it's just springs on a DD.

I wish that, from an aesthetic perspective, the HnR's could have the rake that the eibach kit provides and not sit so damned flat.

[dinanm3atl]

It's ok

I was just looking for a picture but forgot to ask. Still don't have a picture hehe...

I know the car will ride better and I won't be scared to use an off ramp after the install :)

[Spec]

I did a bunch of research and there are a few pics on this forum with the Eibach springs installed. And while there really is no change on the frotn spring rate, the rear spring rate is stiffer than stock. There is a good rake to them which helps the later models look quite a bit. I'll see fi I can't find some of those pics for you...

Some of the comments or "help" on this forum have really been getting to me lately. This is probably because there seems to be a bunch of 16-20 yr old kids on this forum, but instead of bagging and putting down people and their decisions all the time, how bout just ansewring the question in a mature and informative manner? Geez - all people aren't looking for the exact same things. Maybe he DOES just want the look and doesn't need stiff, rigid performance on his DD.

And this is an ignorant statement that is completely false. A brand new spring worse then a 200,000 mile spring, JUST because it has a similar spring rate? Comeon now...:

Stock 200k mi springs > Eibach Prokit

[Jordan]

this is an ignorant statement that is completely false. A brand new spring worse then a 200,000 mile spring, JUST because it has a similar spring rate? Comeon now...:

Suggestion for you. STFU, GTFO

Eibachs Prokit offering is too low, and with no added spring rate is unable to keep the struts off their internal bump stops. I guess if you consider the bump stop as a spring rate approaching infinity.... I've driven plenty of unfortunate e30's with those springs. They all handled and rode the same. Like shit.

[dinanm3atl]

Thanks Spec :)

It is a temporary solution for a bigger problem. I hate how it rides right now with blown out old ass suspension...

Also on top of that the front assemblies I am getting with the deal have close to new(less than 10,000 mile old) Strut bearings and wheel bearings... So that is better than what I have now. It is a little turd DD that I drive to work. It is mostly on the highway and I beat on it when I go to the e30 rallys. Otherwise I just cruise in it :)

[dinanm3atl]

Suggestion for you. STFU, GTFO

Eibachs Prokit offering is too low, and with no added spring rate is unable to keep the struts off their internal bump stops. I guess if you consider the bump stop as a spring rate approaching infinity.... I've driven plenty of unfortunate e30's with those springs. They all handled and rode the same. Like shit.

I'll report back after they are installed. Pretty sure the new shocks will work better than what are in there too.

[Van Westervelt]

Few shots of my first suspension which was Eibach pro-kit, Billie sports, Upgraded sways etc. On the bronzit one, I had the same bits, just H&R Sports.

[uofom3]

Suggestion for you. STFU, GTFO

Eibachs Prokit offering is too low, and with no added spring rate is unable to keep the struts off their internal bump stops. I guess if you consider the bump stop as a spring rate approaching infinity.... I've driven plenty of unfortunate e30's with those springs. They all handled and rode the same. Like shit.

back to his old ways.

[dinanm3atl]

Few shots of my first suspension which was Eibach pro-kit, Billie sports, Upgraded sways etc. On the bronzit one, I had the same bits, just H&R Sports.

Thanks.

I think I will like it!

[VacMan]

Here's our newest addition with Eibach pro-kit and KYB's on it. You might recognize it as Ben Carufel's old daily driver. For $350 I couldn't pass it up. :D I got the springs and shocks for a smokin' deal and we threw them on this past weekend.







Despite what some people would have you believe, these are just fine for daily driving. The combo was a huge improvement over the blown stock stuff that was on the car. I still need to get the car aligned before I can do real back to back comparisons, but the ride is much better. Not all of us are looking for track suspensions on our DD. :D

Tim

PS I'd actually prefer a more level look than the slight rake the car has now, but I think a lot of the appearance has to do with the fact that this car has the higher rear arches also.

[dinanm3atl]

I will post pics but that looks like exactly what I want.

Glad I chose what I did and got a screaming deal!!!

Will have pics with refinished wheels and the drop.

[egk2]

Just wondering why would you want to do things twice?

I had eibachs on my old e30, car came with them, they were junk and the car rolled like a pig and squatted off line.

I guess they're fine for people who just want the look of a lowered car but don't care about how it handles(ricer mod);)

[Van Westervelt]

lamin-x smoked headlights what? :razz:

[VacMan]

Just wondering why would you want to do things twice?

I had eibachs on my old e30, car came with them, they were junk and the car rolled like a pig and squatted off line.

I guess they're fine for people who just want the look of a lowered car but don't care about how it handles(ricer mod);)

Rolling has a lot more to do with the sway bars on your car than the springs you choose. Also, what type of shocks/struts did you have? How old were they? They will have the biggest effect on compression damping (squatting.)

Not everyone wants or needs what you want. This car was purchased for my Mother in Law to daily drive. We lowered it primarily for cosmetic reasons and it rides and handles much, much better than stock. It is a stock ride, only 2 inches lower. If you want to be boy racer, more power to you.

Eibach got to where they are today by giving the drop people want without sacrificing the ride quality. Can the car be outhandled by IE3's/bilsteins? I'm sure it can. But a fresh, stock E30 handles better than 90% of the cars on the road, and the Eibach setup is better still. If it doesn't fit your idea of what lowering springs should be, then fine, but that doesn't mean they're not good.

By the way, my cabrio has BavAuto springs (which most R3Vsters consider to be worse than Eibach), Bilsteins, M3 control arms and bushings, and Eibach sways front and rear. The ride is plush but it corners without a hint of body roll. It's all in how you set the car up. You don't need 500lb springs to get good handling.

Tim

[Spec]

Suggestion for you. STFU, GTFO

Eibachs Prokit offering is too low, and with no added spring rate is unable to keep the struts off their internal bump stops. I guess if you consider the bump stop as a spring rate approaching infinity.... I've driven plenty of unfortunate e30's with those springs. They all handled and rode the same. Like shit.

You're exactly the kind of kid I was talking about. Thanks for making it blatant and proving my point.

As Tim said above,a lot of the members here on R3V have limited knowledge about suspension setups and they're willing to jump down someones throats when they don't want a 400lb spring. :roll: Eibachs are good springs, they're just not built for a race track. They're built, generally, for street use. It is a plush ride close to stock but with less fender gap. If you're not railing corners, the Eibachs can be a BETTER ride then some IE3's on a DD. You heard me: better. Not to all, but to many. That's what Eibach was built on.

Best of luck, Dinan. I think you'll be happy. E30 Groupie supplied some nice pictures, and on the later models the Eibachs look great. I almost got a set myself here recently but decided to go a touch firmer.