I just pissed someone off, need to vent...

[DaveSmed]

Ok, weird that both cars had adhesive added. Was a major pain in the ass, ended up really breaking it and getting glass dust everywhere.

[atomic]

Hmm. Actually, I have a question. Who else has removed a windshield from an airbag car? I did one a little while ago and was cursing because there was in fact adhesive around the windshield in addition to the locking strip. I had figured it was simply replaced incorrectly. (kicking myself for not noticing if it was OE glass or not) You say there was adhesive on your '91 when it was being removed as well? Hmm..... could be a coincidence, but airbag cars are a little different in a few areas.

I replaced the windshield in my '91 airbag car and there was no adhesive at all, and it was oem BMW glass too (had the BMW marking on it)...

[DaveSmed]

Hmm. Actually, I have a question. Who else has removed a windshield from an airbag car? I did one a little while ago and was cursing because there was in fact adhesive around the windshield in addition to the locking strip. I had figured it was simply replaced incorrectly. (kicking myself for not noticing if it was OE glass or not) You say there was adhesive on your '91 when it was being removed as well? Hmm..... could be a coincidence, but airbag cars are a little different in a few areas.

[DEV0 E30]

Just because someone installed the last windshield in your car incorrectly doesn't mean everyone else is wrong. I have removed 2 OEM windshields from E30's and neither had anything holding it in place but the lockstrip. That's why it's called a lockstrip.

Sorry for your crappy day and experience with the installer, but at the end of the day, he was right.

Word. My installer didn't use any glue and I know non-Ms don't use it. Hate to rub it in, but it's one of those useful pieces of information.

He had some trick stuff to preserve the gasket from cracking and to make it easier to bend, also to get the glass to set correctly and promote a better seal. Looked like KY lubricant for cars, that, a screwdriver, and the lock strip tool are the only things needed.

OT: He had a shit load of gold teeth.

[Massive Lee]

There's sealant applied between the rubber gasket and the body. But that's not glue. That ensures that no water reaches the window frame.

[ANDRÜ]

I would have just let him do his job. He IS the installer, not you...

[FredK]

ah thanks for that post ak96ss, it'll definitely help me remove my window when I get home!

[nando]

uhm, no.

guys, my original window was installed WITH this black rubbery sealant both before and after the gasket.
I couldnt even get the gasket to open up for me to let the old windshiled out, i had to cut it out. Also had to scrape a bunch of leftover sealant out of the frame.
So i want it back in the way it came out but i can see how it could be ok to reinstall w/o the sealant.
I like how one person makes a single sided perspective with explination and everyone jumps the bandwagon because it sounds good and they dont know better. Thanks for the support in humoring a "proper" window install and making me look like an ass. For the record, the guy was a complete asshole to me as soon as he walked up.

no, E30 windows don't have glue. yours must have been replaced at one time. don't be a retard.

[ak96ss]

From the factory manual:

As Jordan stated, the M3 is glued in place, but it has a special adhesive they use - looks like a more complex process than squirting goo on and plopping the glass in.



And FWIW, the installation instructions for the regular glass make no mention of sealant of any sort.

[Jordan]

E30 M3 windshields, front and rear, are bonded to the body. They are a structural member of the vehicle.

Non-m e30's front and rear glass are all held in with a gasket and lock strip. No adhesive was used on any of them ever from the factory. Its presence on your car only shows someone previously installed it wrong.

[atomic]

Oh and for the record the normal e30 back windows are held in the same way as the front windshields are, with a lock strip and nothing else.

But not sure if the e30 M3 is like this, but I believe they are glued in like they are on the front of the M3 as well. Someone clear this up if I am wrong.

[Dave]

xLibelle,

Calm down - take a deep breath. Sounds like the last guy to do the job on your car did it wrong and you got stuck with the result. No one is doubting that the one you removed had adhesive on it.

In your case, I'd try to get a new gasket as well as that old one might be compromised if it has gunked up adhesive on it, or if it tore when the old window was coming out.

Good luck with getting it fixed.

[VacMan]

uhm, no.

guys, my original window was installed WITH this black rubbery sealant both before and after the gasket.
I couldnt even get the gasket to open up for me to let the old windshiled out, i had to cut it out. Also had to scrape a bunch of leftover sealant out of the frame.
So i want it back in the way it came out but i can see how it could be ok to reinstall w/o the sealant.
I like how one person makes a single sided perspective with explination and everyone jumps the bandwagon because it sounds good and they dont know better. Thanks for the support in humoring a "proper" window install and making me look like an ass. For the record, the guy was a complete asshole to me as soon as he walked up.

Just because someone installed the last windshield in your car incorrectly doesn't mean everyone else is wrong. I have removed 2 OEM windshields from E30's and neither had anything holding it in place but the lockstrip. That's why it's called a lockstrip.

Sorry for your crappy day and experience with the installer, but at the end of the day, he was right.

[atomic]

uhm, no.

guys, my original window was installed WITH this black rubbery sealant both before and after the gasket.
I couldnt even get the gasket to open up for me to let the old windshiled out, i had to cut it out. Also had to scrape a bunch of leftover sealant out of the frame.
So i want it back in the way it came out but i can see how it could be ok to reinstall w/o the sealant.
I like how one person makes a single sided perspective with explination and everyone jumps the bandwagon because it sounds good and they dont know better. Thanks for the support in humoring a "proper" window install and making me look like an ass. For the record, the guy was a complete asshole to me as soon as he walked up.

Well someone in the past installed your windshield wrong then. Because the only e30 that has a glued in windshield is the M3 and all others are held in by the lockstrip inside the gasket. They were this way when it rolled of the assembly line period.

Sorry if you feel like an ass because of our views on this, but it is what it is and was not meant to be installed with windshield urethane period, unless a e30 M3.

[Farbin Kaiber]

EDIT: Dude, the window is put in dry from the factory.

X2... Be pissed at the guy that installed the old one that came out. If you paid the dealer they woulda got it right. Hopefully. Even they pay some outside sales co. to do the glass in most places.