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  • mck
    Wrencher
    • Jan 2007
    • 238

    #1

    S38 or S52?

    I need help chosing a motor for the E30.
    I can get hold a a S38B36 now. Although I did want a S52 before I found this.
    What are the pros and cons of these convertions. I have been told that the S38 is heavy(I don't want the E30 to handle like crap) and expensive to maintain. Any one that has done these convertions or driven these cars please give me some advice.
    Thanks
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    '89' E30 with Euro S50B30
  • backtrail69
    R3V Elite
    • Jul 2005
    • 4471

    #2
    Two very different engines. I would go for a s38 if you can afford it, they aren't cheap to maintain or fix. I would go with a s52 if you want something with low cost and reliable. Its all about what you want.

    Something Unique and have instant torque anywhere (s38)
    A reliable DD type car, but fairly common (s52)

    I went with a stroked and turbod m20, I love that motor as well, but not the best for a DD or even big city driving.
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    '87 325 4dr, '74 2002

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    • MR 325
      Moderator
      • Oct 2003
      • 37824

      #3
      S52.

      S38's suck, just like S14's.
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      • mrsleeve
        I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
        • Mar 2005
        • 16385

        #4
        My self I love the idea of a s38 in a e30 but unless you are made of money its just not cost effective. They need lost of attention but still very cool.

        i was considering this route for my build next winter, but because of the costs of building a turbo friendly s38 and the shear cost of parts for it I have decide to go turbo s52. I am just starting to source the parts so it will be a bit.
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        • UNHCLL
          R3V OG
          • Oct 2003
          • 8789

          #5
          Originally posted by MR 325
          S52.

          S38's suck, just like S14's.
          You're such an ignoramus.
          Your blanket statements are pretty obnoxious as well.

          :roll:
          Below the radar...

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          • Joe318is
            R3V OG
            • Sep 2005
            • 6451

            #6
            S38B38 + DS E30 coupe = dream car


            Originally posted by vlad
            Do you know anybody else who built that many bad ass E30s?

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            • scabzzzz
              Estado de mierda de encargo
              • Jul 2007
              • 6870

              #7
              Why doesnt everyone just do an S14 swap into their E30's?

              Because
              1) Harder to find
              2) Half of them out there are broke as fuck
              3) Expensive as shit

              Apply all that to an S38 x 12312523

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              • Ray Smoodiver
                Moderator
                • Jun 2004
                • 8809

                #8
                Remember he's RHD.

                S38 is so much easier than S50 for RHD cars.

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                • george graves
                  I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
                  • Oct 2003
                  • 19985

                  #9
                  Originally posted by MR 325
                  S52.

                  S38's suck, just like S14's.
                  Originally posted by Matt-B
                  hey does anyone know anyone who gets upset and makes electronics?

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                  • kansas-ix
                    E30 Mastermind
                    • Jan 2004
                    • 1600

                    #10
                    s52
                    E30 325ix 62k

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                    • FredK
                      R3V OG
                      • Oct 2003
                      • 14739

                      #11
                      As long as you don't pile up mileage and can source an S38 with lower mileage, I say do the S38. The reason being, if you can get a lower mileage motor, you can delay the mega expensive maintenance just a bit longer while you enjoy the pure power of 3.6 liters of M power.

                      But, don't do the swap if you're already going to be strained by buying the engine itself.

                      Sucka is long! But outright I believe it weighs nearly the same as a S50B30.

                      How much is an S52 in Australia? I imagine you'd be sourcing a crank from the US and boring out an M50. That would make for quite a powerful engine!

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                      • MR 325
                        Moderator
                        • Oct 2003
                        • 37824

                        #12
                        Originally posted by UNHCLL
                        You're such an ignoramus.
                        Your blanket statements are pretty obnoxious as well.

                        :roll:
                        If it's ignorant to notice a $10,000 S14 is still slower than my 100k mile S50, guilty as charged!
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                        • WillisE30
                          E30 Modder
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 831

                          #13
                          I would go with the S52 simply because you can actually afford to drive it and flog it, if something does break it'll be cheaper to replace by quite a bit.
                          sigpicFormer professional wrench thrower.
                          Current:
                          1988 325is S52
                          Former:
                          2008 Sparkling Graphite M3 Sedan(victim of home ownership)
                          1988 M5
                          1996 328is

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                          • crunk3
                            M5
                            • Sep 2006
                            • 1182

                            #14
                            S54 Ftw
                            91 318iS http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2396154

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                            • mck
                              Wrencher
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 238

                              #15
                              I will deffinetly turbo the S..

                              I am going to turbo the motor either way whether its a S38 or S52(or S50, S54).
                              I have found two S38 here in Australia.
                              160,000km for $4500AUD or rebuilt in bits for $5500AUD , I can get the Gearbox w/clutch, drive shaft, diff for $3000AUD. At the moment I can't source a S52(or similar) but last one I saw was for $12,500 with gearbox.
                              Looks like I would have to import the S52 for the states as there aren't many here.
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                              '89' E30 with Euro S50B30

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