Did you correct for rear toe & camber?

[funcrew]

I've got IE Stage 3 springs ready to install & need to know whether toe/camber adjusting tabs on lowered cars are mandatory. Since I don't weld, and I work during welding shop hours, it's going to be a pain to get the adjusters installed on the subframe.

Also please comment on rear tire wear if you're lowered with no toe/camber correction.

[fretburnr]

I didn't correct it at all and i'm just as low. No noticeable toe scrub, and very minor camber wear, but I corner a lot around here. If you do mostly straight-line highway driving, you may get more camber wear.

[mrsleeve]

I did nothing an I am on a HR cup kit, its low, have not put enough miles on it in the last 3 years to know if the tire wear is shitty yet. Allthough I suspect its not gonna be pretty.

[Borat]

I dropped 40mm in the rear and tyre wear and handling were both terrible. wasn't even an option for me. IE weld in for me.

[Aptyp]

When I lowered mine, I toe was slightly more in, but tire wear wasn't affected. I decided to weld on the Camber/Caster Kit after I drove in the rain few times. Car started oversteering a bit. my friend has K-Macs on his car, and they suck, takes him an hour longer to align his rear. I love being able to adjust my rear camber, and rear toe doesn't make much difference. You'll be be only 1mm in for ever inch that you drop. Not a big deal unless you drop by 4 inches.

[E30_fiend]

I put 11k on some yoko ES100s and I'm lowered just as far but I noticed a good amount of inner shoulder wear but if you keep up with your rotations, you should be fine.


E30Fiend

[pogiboy9]

I dropped 40mm in the rear and tyre wear and handling were both terrible. wasn't even an option for me. IE weld in for me.

Curious which springs and shock combo you used?
and OP, i put my H&R Race + Bili Sports on my original setup. I had pretty good tire wear, but soon after i replaced my LCAs Tie Rods and CABs.

I think were also the cause of the tire wear, now after all that i got a new set of rubbers and an alignment. I've driven over 2000 miles so far and notice 0 tire wear.

Tire wear will be caused more by Toe adjustment not your camber. If you're doing a new suspension i'd suggest checking/replacing your mounts. I believe IE's site also has an explanation about camber and tire wear. I believe the reasonable amount is 3 degrees before camber causes noticeable tire wear.

[StereoInstaller1]

Mine is not all that low, but I have horrible tire wear. I have yet to get over 7K miles on a set of 215/40/17s.

To correct my rear camber, I am gonna drift into a curb at precisely 22MPH.

EDIT: If you do the "Curbdrift Camberfix" wrong, you will have this: http://myspacetv.com/index.cfm?fusea...videoid=545322

[pogiboy9]

Wtf.... lol

[george graves]

http://myspacetv.com/index.cfm?fusea...videoid=545322

That was the best....Oh the horror. The scream at the end made it!!!

[Borat]

Curious which springs and shock combo you used?

I'm running a whiteline 60/40 spring set with boge turbo shocks. I also had a reasonably heavy sub box in the boot which made a difference too.

I got the feeling there was something wrong with my car though i never figured out what. Nothing looked bent and the camber was the same on both sides, just extremely cambered in the rear.

I agree with you that toe will be causing most of the rapid tyre wear people experience, which is why I'd advise everyone who was going to do the IE kit to get both camber and toe.

[z31maniac]

I put 11k on some yoko ES100s and I'm lowered just as far but I noticed a good amount of inner shoulder wear but if you keep up with your rotations, you should be fine.


E30Fiend

Did you know the Bentley manual actually recommends NOT rotating the tires, weird.

[Ray Smoodiver]

I'm running a whiteline 60/40 spring set with boge turbo shocks. I also had a reasonably heavy sub box in the boot which made a difference too.

I got the feeling there was something wrong with my car though i never figured out what. Nothing looked bent and the camber was the same on both sides, just extremely cambered in the rear.

I agree with you that toe will be causing most of the rapid tyre wear people experience, which is why I'd advise everyone who was going to do the IE kit to get both camber and toe.

Yours was some of the worst camber i've ever seen on an E30, and i've seen plenty lower. So you never found out why it was so bad Mike?

[AlarmedBread]

I need to vote

Yes, eccentric TA bushings but they suck - so I welded in some tabs.

you may get more camber wear.

No.

When you lower the rear, each wheel gains camber AND toe IN. The toe in is what causes the excessive wear, not the camber. All you really need is a way to adjust your toe, camber isn't much of a problem and can be adjusted with rear ride height. It's pretty decent at your typical drop levels, unless you go stupid low. I've had 2.5-3 rear camber with nea 0 toe and had no problems. The rear tires actually have better wear than the fronts because I had around 1/8" total toe in front.

[Jesse30]

I need to vote

Yes, eccentric TA bushings but they suck - so I welded in some tabs.



No.

When you lower the rear, each wheel gains camber AND toe IN. The toe in is what causes the excessive wear, not the camber. All you really need is a way to adjust your toe, camber isn't much of a problem and can be adjusted with rear ride height. It's pretty decent at your typical drop levels, unless you go stupid low. I've had 2.5-3 rear camber with nea 0 toe and had no problems. The rear tires actually have better wear than the fronts because I had around 1/8" total toe in front.

you dont want that much camber in the rear just FYI. im running 0 toe, 3.3 degrees up front and 1 degree in the back. anything more than that is useless.