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    DIYEFI.org, FreeEMS and the future of TRUE DIY engine management

    Foreword:
    I am happy to announce the free open-source/architecture project, which i have been participating in for a while now. I am sure some enthusiasts of this forum would be interested in reading about this project and perhaps even participate, hence me posting this here.
    I am posting this in the general section as there is no dedicated engine management section on r3v.
    Below is the diyefi.org admin's broadcast message to the community.

    Enjoy,
    Alex
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    Hi,

    This thread is here to introduce and discuss DIYEFI.org, a new community with a difference.

    For those of you who don't know who I am, I've been keeping a close eye on DIY EFI stuff since the late 90's and been involved with MegaSquirt for the last 3 years or so to some degree or other. Many things have come and gone and many things have changed in that time. The time has come for an even bigger change. Those of you who "just use" MegaSquirt and don't get too involved won't really care too much about this site for at least a few more months. On the other hand, if you like to participate and get involved, this site is probably for you.

    As a way of testing whether you might be interested, I have assembled some questions here :
    • Do you use GNU/Linux?
    • Does engine management interest you?
    • Are you a fan of Open Source Software?
    • Do you enjoy printing your own boards?
    • How about designing your own boards?
    • Do you dislike closed door development?
    • Sick of Lance deleting your posts on msefi.com?
    • Sick of waiting for UMS, PWC, MS3, Router board, GPIO or Sequencer?
    • Willing to put in the hard work to have the engine management system of your hearts desire?
    • Clever with electronics or code and willing to work on an open source project for the greater good and benefit to all?

    If you answered yes to any of those you may want to take a look at my new site, if not, there is no need to bother :-)

    The site is totally non-profit. There aren't even any adverts (yet, probably never if I can help it). The designs will be community produced and available for free download just like FireFox and Linux etc. There are no businesses or companies behind it. Just me and a group of like minded individuals who want to make the DIY engine management world a better place for everyone.

    If you are wondering why I have gone and put this much time, effort and money into apparently reinventing the wheel, take a look here http://www.diyefi.org/why.htm

    If you are wondering who else is involved in the project, or indeed who has made MegaSquirt the runaway success that it has become, please see the appropriate sections of this page http://www.diyefi.org/contributors.htm

    If you are wondering about some of the details of the history of Do It Yourself fuel injection, have a read through this partly incomplete history page http://www.diyefi.org/history.htm

    If you want to dig straight in then have a of this thread viewtopic.php?f=17&t=90

    The code is nothing special just yet, but some of the foundations are there and working flawlessly http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsXPi2KWRAU

    It will be some time before it runs an engine, but that doesn't mean you should wait till then to get involved. If you express your opinion in a constructive way now, you will be happier with the end result when it finally arrives.

    It was recently suggested to me that I was trying to recruit the type of people that complain a lot :

    Originally posted by Anon
    If the recruitment drive is for disenfranchised MS people as it seems to be, you're going to end up with a bunch of B&G gripers and generally negative people more than likely.

    This is NOT the case. In fact, that is the LAST thing that I want. If you are just going to whinge, whine and complain about the past, please stay away. If on the other hand you have something positive to offer about the future, please sign up!

    The forum is here if you would like to join our efforts : index.php

    However, before joining, I recommend that you have a read of this first viewtopic.php?f=17&t=26

    If you want to see some of my work that is more or less completed and you have DSL have a look here viewtopic.php?f=3&t=16

    If you are wondering more about me, some would say that one word sums me up nicely

    http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii15 ... 0_7044.jpg

    though, I prefer to prefix it with 'car-' ;-)

    Thanks for reading, I hope you enjoy what you find :-)

    Fred.

    #2
    This is Ken from the msextra forum.

    James Murray, Phil Ringwood, and I (along with Bruce and Al of course) are the main developers of ms1/extra and ms2/extra (along with tons of other people, at least on the ms1/extra side).

    We are in no way associated with Fred's project, and are hard at work trying to make ms2/extra (and our next generation stuff) better.

    Ken

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      #3
      Features include 40MHz main core speed, 80MHz XGATE coprocessor, 32KB of RAM, 512KB of flash, and most importantly more than 90 I/O pins.
      Glad to see you guys are putting some muscle into it! With 90 I/O's you should be able to sense/control anything!
      Originally posted by Matt-B
      hey does anyone know anyone who gets upset and makes electronics?

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        #4
        Thanks Ken,

        Because I was not registered on this board, it managed to not get my update post, I will quote it here for your convenience :

        I just wanted to point out that James and Ken are NOT working on my project with me. The original contributors page may have been a little misleading in that regard, I have updated it now to be more clear. My most humble apologies for that misunderstanding.
        Thanks for all the great work you guys have done Ken. It is sincerely appreciated by all of us, and I am certain of that! You and James particularly are an inspiration to us all. Thank you for confirming that in writing.

        Kindest regards (regardless of what any of you think of me),

        Fred.

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          #5
          Hi,

          Originally posted by george graves View Post
          Glad to see you guys are putting some muscle into it! With 90 I/O's you should be able to sense/control anything!
          I don't know about "anything", but it should be fairly capable, yes. Enough for most peoples requirements for sure. I would still call it a light weight processor, OEM's use MUCH more powerful cores than anything MS or ours. Pin count wise, I think it is a good move though. I am glad you agree :-)

          Fred.

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            #6
            This is very interesting, nice to see more options popping up!

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              #7
              Sounds cool. Unfortunately i have not taken any classes yet that would be useful to your cause.
              Your signature picture has been removed since it contained the Photobucket "upgrade your account" image.

              www.gecoils.com
              My euro 316 project Transaction Feedback

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                #8
                Originally posted by einstein57 View Post
                Sounds cool. Unfortunately i have not taken any classes yet that would be useful to your cause.
                Trust me, all you need to do is be able to think and have a well founded opinion that you are willing to share to be useful :-)

                You don't have to actually do something to help!

                Fred.

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                  #9
                  It has come to my attention today that one of our members has been banned from msefi.com just by being a member on my site. Please, if you are signed to my site, or intending to, and also need assistance on msefi.com read this :



                  It is highly unfortunate that I have to post about this publicly, but I feel that not doing so would be irresponsible to my users.

                  Fred.

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                    #10
                    Minor update :



                    Human readable serial logging is working as of this morning. I'll tidy it up and add a bunch more variables before doing a release later today.

                    I also changed the formatting of the forum a bit. The moderators are now Blue, the members that have contributed the most useful stuff to discussions are Green, I am now Fred instead of Admin which feels much more natural, and I added an Admin user for site stuff (who is me for now, but could be others later).

                    Fred.

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                      #11
                      Introducing FreeTherm a new little utility that does a similar thing to easytherm :



                      C# + mono = "up yours" to M$. (microsoft)

                      Result :



                      Real temperatures in the ECU :-)

                      Too easy.

                      (in degrees K * 100, so divide by 100 and subtract 273 for deg C, you are on your own for deg F)

                      A basic and inaccurate RPM calc was also added since I last posted here.

                      Fred.

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                        #12
                        Screen shot of my little thermistor app running on Vista :

                        http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/i...ermOnVista.jpg (190kB)

                        Get it here : http://sourceforge.net/project/showf...ease_id=608485 (166kB)

                        And the library it needs here : http://forge.novell.com/modules/xfco...-win32-0.0.exe (23.3MB)

                        I'm *hoping* that Stu intends to use GTK# for the tuning app if/when he does it, so that library install should cover both apps and we can produce other utils in C# in future too to keep the downloads to a minimum.

                        Of course, it's no use to any of you really, and not 100% finished (see the TODO in the zip) either, but I thought I'd post it up anyway.

                        Fred.

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