Replacing a control arm.

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  • 88E30325ITN
    Member
    • Jul 2008
    • 47

    #1

    Replacing a control arm.

    I haven't ever done it before. What degree of difficulty is it and what tools are needed? Any advice before doing it would also be appreciated. I was told all I would need is a set of metric sockets and a hammer.
    I feel like a fish out of water, most times.
  • wagonizzle
    E30 Addict
    • Sep 2006
    • 443

    #2
    ^ Well, no. Good luck getting a socket on those lock nuts. Get a 22mm or 7/8 STUBBY wrench and use leverage to your advantage. You may also need a pickle fork (as long as you are replacing all the ball joints), some PB Blaster, and some patience; you can't turn the wrench very far. You will have to get CAB's pressed in if you are replacing them, and dish soap to slide them onto the control arm. It takes a while the first time, but it's a rewarding job. Good luck!
    Originally posted by chileelky
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    • 88E30325ITN
      Member
      • Jul 2008
      • 47

      #3
      I am not replacing the bearings so will I have to get them pressed still?
      I feel like a fish out of water, most times.

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      • Danny
        Moderator
        • Feb 2008
        • 14216

        #4
        Air tools ftw.

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        • wagonizzle
          E30 Addict
          • Sep 2006
          • 443

          #5
          Hahaha I think you mean bushings. They need to be pressed into the 'lollipops' that bolt to the body. If you don't want to replace them that is ok, but I ruined my old ones getting the lollipops off the old control arm. Of course, I knew I'd be replacing them, but they were REALLY on there.
          Originally posted by chileelky
          amaze about the enthusiasm e30 generate

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          • eighteight325is
            Wrencher
            • Apr 2006
            • 204

            #6
            If you aren't replacing the control arm bushings you won't have to worry about getting them pressed in/out of the lollipops. However, if your CAB's are OE type bushings and are at all worn your are going to have to be very careful removing the control arm end FROM the bushing to avoid tearing or damaging it.

            Also, I second that the nuts holding the control arms to the subframe are a PITA. I read after doing mine that the best way to deal with them is to drop the subframe so you can get better purchase on them as well as re-torque them to the appropriate setting.

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            • eighteight325is
              Wrencher
              • Apr 2006
              • 204

              #7
              Originally posted by wagonizzle
              Hahaha I think you mean bushings. They need to be pressed into the 'lollipops' that bolt to the body. If you don't want to replace them that is ok, but I ruined my old ones getting the lollipops off the old control arm. Of course, I knew I'd be replacing them, but they were REALLY on there.
              You beat me to it :)

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              • Jean
                Moderator
                • Aug 2006
                • 18228

                #8
                On the m20 cars there is little clearance, the biggest issue will be getting to the main 22mm nuts on top of the subframe, they are just behind the engine mounts.






                I would also replace the complete control arm(s) that way you don't have to deal with pressing stuff in (other than the rear mounting point for the rear cab).
                Mtech1 v8 build thread - https://www.r3vlimited.com/board/sho...d.php?t=413205



                OEM v8 manual chip or dme - https://www.r3vlimited.com/board/sho....php?p=4938827

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                • 88E30325ITN
                  Member
                  • Jul 2008
                  • 47

                  #9
                  Sounds like a job for someone more knowledgeable. Dad!!!! Some of what was said kinda flew over me.
                  I feel like a fish out of water, most times.

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                  • 88E30325ITN
                    Member
                    • Jul 2008
                    • 47

                    #10
                    wagonizzle had a great point we got this done today. My dad and I did this together and the way we made it easy was to use a "crows foot". If you do not know what it is, ask. 22mm it fit easiest with this tool so I am just passing on the knowledge. Take care.
                    I feel like a fish out of water, most times.

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                    • Berlin-3
                      Banned
                      • Jul 2008
                      • 145

                      #11
                      Crows foot, is also a pickle fork

                      same as

                      bushing seperator

                      tie rod puller

                      etc
                      etc

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                      • Borat
                        E30 Addict
                        • Jan 2005
                        • 494

                        #12
                        I never used a pickle fork, hammer did the job fine

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                        • Quadrajet
                          E30 Fanatic
                          • Jul 2008
                          • 1278

                          #13
                          Crow's foot is actually a very stubby wrench that fits on the end of a ratchet extension. I can see how they would be the tool to use.

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                          • Eric Giles
                            E30 Enthusiast
                            • Oct 2003
                            • 1068

                            #14
                            I have been using the 22mm crows foot/u-joint/extensions to remove the inner balljoint nuts on the control arms for years. It takes a while to do it, but I find it's the easiest way. A search should have pulled up this information from years ago.
                            Eric Giles
                            '20 M2 CS
                            '04 M3
                            '11 X5 35D
                            '87 325is
                            '91 325i Sport

                            There are few things more expensive than a cheap BMW...

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