Cosworth 190E 2.3-16

[Jonny Cash]

Stumbled across a set of 2.3 Cosworths recently. My dad used to race a 190e in the 80's in a stock class, so I was thinking on restoring one of these to original in his memory.
So Ive been looking around, and for a car considered to be the arch rival of the M3, they certainly don't have anything close of a cult following like the M3 does. You would think that due to them being harder to come by in the US, (only 1900) they would bring in more money. But they seem to be much cheaper to get ahold of than the M3.

Did the M3 completley kill any chances the 2.3 had to earn collector status? Any cool pics, stories, history on these cars you want to share. Post it here.

[ZM Blue Devil]

Great cars, on my wishlist. There are followers.

Check out Paul at autokennel.com He had two nice ones for sale.

[.cj.]

2.3 16's are great cars.

With that said, 4 door cars have a really hard time competing against 2 door cars when it comes to collectability.

The only exception seems to be a e28 m5 vs e24 m6's.

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/cto/1106882172.html

This seems to be a good buy. It's located in a affluent neighborhood. Chances are it's been very well maintained. A comparable
e30 m3 would bring 18k easily.



Cris

[Jonny Cash]

autokennel.com seems to be dead. Not many of these cars around.

[TDE30]

The success of the E30 M3 in various touring car series no doubt effected the prices and the following of the 190E, but I think a lot of the reason you don't see so many of them is due in part to their relatively low production numbers compared to the E30 M3.

They seem like very cool cars, back when AMG wasn't a trendy add-on badge, but a serious tuning house.

It's amazing to see the range of prices with the 2.3-16's, I've seen some as low as $4k and some minty examples fetching over $10k, far from E30 M3 prices.

[napabavarian]

2.3 16's are great cars.

With that said, 4 door cars have a really hard time competing against 2 door cars when it comes to collectability.

The only exception seems to be a e28 m5 vs e24 m6's.

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/cto/1106882172.html

This seems to be a good buy. It's located in a affluent neighborhood. Chances are it's been very well maintained. A comparable
e30 m3 would bring 18k easily.



Cris

If I had money...it would be sold.

[omar85]

sick.

[Ray Smoodiver]

Dive one and you'll see why.

Sure, the cosworth head flows air like the E30 M3 one can only dream about, but holy shit does their handling suck.

[ethree]

190's are ugly piles, that's why they don't have any value.

[sennasixty8]

Dive one and you'll see why.

Sure, the cosworth head flows air like the E30 M3 one can only dream about, but holy shit does their handling suck.

Have you driven one with a proper set of bilsteins and springs? I had a w201 that had a pretty basic H&R cup kit, no bars or otherwise and it handled like a dream.

I do agree that its not as tossable as an e30, but if you're really wanting to compare apples to apples, the w201 chassis's are quite a bit stiffer than an e30, especially for a 4d00r saloon.

Anyways... spool-up some old school DTM videos of these two 'Marques goin' at it in the fatherland, and either car will get your blood flowin' watching the drivers and cars do what they do best! RACE.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUAE-819OG4

this vid will make any e30 m3 fan smile from ear to ear... listen to the induction noise...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SrJQ1c7lwFA&feature=related

[geezerman402]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JK4vLkUGOs4

Just after the Corrado, he talks about the Merc.

[02stu]

Dive one and you'll see why.

Sure, the cosworth head flows air like the E30 M3 one can only dream about, but holy shit does their handling suck.

Maybe a ragged out one, I thought the two that I drove felt identical to an m3. They don't have quite as much feel as an e30 but they are completely neutral and controllable I love them. For some reason they are very small though. Not a good car if your over 6 feet.

[Jonny Cash]

Dive one and you'll see why.

Sure, the cosworth head flows air like the E30 M3 one can only dream about, but holy shit does their handling suck.

I was young at the time, but my dads 190 handled awsome for a big car. Very balanced.

[Jand3rson]

Dive one and you'll see why.

Sure, the cosworth head flows air like the E30 M3 one can only dream about, but holy shit does their handling suck.

I agree. I have a friend locally with the 2.3 16V, and while it's pretty damn quick and looks tits, it's handling pales in comparison to the M3, even Cup-Kit equipped.

[Tree18is]

when I came to texas there was one for 4500. complete and it probably needed love just like an e30.

and in another neighborhood around the base there is another one, just chillen.