Cosworth 190E 2.3-16

[Alpina]

A young friend of mine owns a E30 with 5 lug and S14

he had a 25-16,, and said that W201 was a much much better car allround vs E30

Extremly good rear suspension and the steering lock to lock was great

when drifting he just to and extra turn so the car wouldn spin around,,

when sprinting against each other they power is very similair,, almost break even,, but the S14 felt like it had more power

just to remind how great these cars are...

W201 is the most succeful racecar EVER on the Nürnburgring ((incl Nordschleife))

go to youtube and there are many stunning videos of the GREAT DTM from 1987-1991
when these cars WERE the cars .. often there was up yo 200.000 spectators watching the battle between these cars ..

today this is nothing like the old-days ,,, everybody talks about it,, even the old drivers

[Holland]

An M3 is so out of my price range, now I'm considering one of these, I had no idea they go for so cheap.

[e30polak]

Project86 should chime in. He has suspension done to his, and it's gutted...and in the process of getting a turbo. :twisted:

[JasonC]

Is anyone in the SW PA area looking for one of these for dirt cheap? And i mean R3V dirt cheap ($500-$600). It looked complete minus a back window and wheels. Most likely would make an great parts car. It's sitting in a junkyard out in the middle of now, The owner of the yard said it would get a salvage title if someone was to buy it. I know nothing about these cars, So i don't know what year it was. The color was black or a met. black with a black int.

[Tree18is]

when I came to texas there was one for 4500. complete and it probably needed love just like an e30.

and in another neighborhood around the base there is another one, just chillen.

[Jand3rson]

Dive one and you'll see why.

Sure, the cosworth head flows air like the E30 M3 one can only dream about, but holy shit does their handling suck.

I agree. I have a friend locally with the 2.3 16V, and while it's pretty damn quick and looks tits, it's handling pales in comparison to the M3, even Cup-Kit equipped.

[Jonny Cash]

Dive one and you'll see why.

Sure, the cosworth head flows air like the E30 M3 one can only dream about, but holy shit does their handling suck.

I was young at the time, but my dads 190 handled awsome for a big car. Very balanced.

[02stu]

Dive one and you'll see why.

Sure, the cosworth head flows air like the E30 M3 one can only dream about, but holy shit does their handling suck.

Maybe a ragged out one, I thought the two that I drove felt identical to an m3. They don't have quite as much feel as an e30 but they are completely neutral and controllable I love them. For some reason they are very small though. Not a good car if your over 6 feet.

[geezerman402]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JK4vLkUGOs4

Just after the Corrado, he talks about the Merc.

[sennasixty8]

Dive one and you'll see why.

Sure, the cosworth head flows air like the E30 M3 one can only dream about, but holy shit does their handling suck.

Have you driven one with a proper set of bilsteins and springs? I had a w201 that had a pretty basic H&R cup kit, no bars or otherwise and it handled like a dream.

I do agree that its not as tossable as an e30, but if you're really wanting to compare apples to apples, the w201 chassis's are quite a bit stiffer than an e30, especially for a 4d00r saloon.

Anyways... spool-up some old school DTM videos of these two 'Marques goin' at it in the fatherland, and either car will get your blood flowin' watching the drivers and cars do what they do best! RACE.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUAE-819OG4

this vid will make any e30 m3 fan smile from ear to ear... listen to the induction noise...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SrJQ1c7lwFA&feature=related

[ethree]

190's are ugly piles, that's why they don't have any value.

[Ray Smoodiver]

Dive one and you'll see why.

Sure, the cosworth head flows air like the E30 M3 one can only dream about, but holy shit does their handling suck.

[omar85]

sick.

[napabavarian]

2.3 16's are great cars.

With that said, 4 door cars have a really hard time competing against 2 door cars when it comes to collectability.

The only exception seems to be a e28 m5 vs e24 m6's.

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/cto/1106882172.html

This seems to be a good buy. It's located in a affluent neighborhood. Chances are it's been very well maintained. A comparable
e30 m3 would bring 18k easily.



Cris

If I had money...it would be sold.

[TDE30]

The success of the E30 M3 in various touring car series no doubt effected the prices and the following of the 190E, but I think a lot of the reason you don't see so many of them is due in part to their relatively low production numbers compared to the E30 M3.

They seem like very cool cars, back when AMG wasn't a trendy add-on badge, but a serious tuning house.

It's amazing to see the range of prices with the 2.3-16's, I've seen some as low as $4k and some minty examples fetching over $10k, far from E30 M3 prices.