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[e30 gangsta]

Naw dude stroker is still sitting in the garage all disassembled. I'm not feeling to good about putting used pistons into a fully rebuilt motor. So either I spend a lot of cash and get mm pistons and machine work, or I buy new seta pistons from bavauto. Chances are ima buy brand new seta and sell the used seta pistons.

[mtechnik]

nice drift shots.

@ Veedubin.--- did you really get traction with the Vr6 and..how was irt going around a corner in that thing while accelarating?

[Vedubin01]

nice drift shots.

@ Veedubin.--- did you really get traction with the Vr6 and..how was irt going around a corner in that thing while accelarating?

My car had a diff and cryo'd gears. I was able to track it at Sebring and it did not that bad for a FWD. I have some video of it but its in AVI format and I am not good at getting it down to size to host. It would light up tires in every gear and was a hoot to drive. I would not recommend to anyone to do what I did. I even had Steve Nickols from the Pugeot 206 team in WRC. (His cost was $1200 per day + airfare, food, and hotel. I almost went broke with this car and I said I would never do it again.

Now I got my E30 and Im working on a S50 with the VF charger. I only want about 350 to 400 rwhp and make it a daily driver.





And before anyone asks Im 34 and own my own business!

[BimmerToad]

Use brand new all-seasons all around. Less chance of any snap oversteer. Rotate halfway through the event. If it's your first one, you won't even go through one set of tires. Sumimotos smoke real well and burn very predictably. The best part is heat-flashing the tires. Smoke em up real nice and hot. Then douse the tire in ice-cold water. Bam, the tire will last FOREVER! You can practice for days on heat-flashed tires.

All-seasons smoke easier than performance tires too.

There is something that bothers me though. We always use our stock 14s to slide on. How about we find something other than stock wheels to slide around on? Like.....15s or 16s...haha. Tires are pretty much the same price, maybe +$4 for every inch larger..

Snap oversteer shouldn't be an issue. My car is reasonably stiff, and with a 4.10lsd + M52 + slight toe-out I shouldn't have a problem with power oversteer. I like the idea of all seasons all around so that I could swap them front to rear, but I'll see how quick an axle lasts and how much fun the events are first.

Definately want to try out heat-flashing

Since I'm 5 lug, I couldn't get a set of bottle caps (I dunno if 14" e28 wheels would clear the calipers), so I found a set of junkyard 16" Hartge off of a 7 series. Chrome is shitty, but I figure I'll refinish them 'creatively' :D

Junkyard Hartges ftw!

[92 mtechnic cabrio]

Snap oversteer shouldn't be an issue. My car is reasonably stiff, and with a 4.10lsd + M52 + slight toe-out I shouldn't have a problem with power oversteer. I like the idea of all seasons all around so that I could swap them front to rear, but I'll see how quick an axle lasts and how much fun the events are first.

Definately want to try out heat-flashing

Since I'm 5 lug, I couldn't get a set of bottle caps (I dunno if 14" e28 wheels would clear the calipers), so I found a set of junkyard 16" Hartge off of a 7 series. Chrome is shitty, but I figure I'll refinish them 'creatively' :D

Junkyard Hartges ftw!

too stiff and it'll snap it more! just keep that in mind. When I went to the event here, a lot of people were jealous of my super-soft setup, because the car would roll teh direction it would want to go with lots of delay so I was able to predict the car's moves two to three seconds before it happens.

[Streetspec_iS]

nice man, nice.

[Erick]

too stiff and it'll snap it more! just keep that in mind. When I went to the event here, a lot of people were jealous of my super-soft setup, because the car would roll teh direction it would want to go with lots of delay so I was able to predict the car's moves two to three seconds before it happens.

For someone just starting, a fully stiff suspension would hurt, and using the weight of the car to control the drift is great and all, but when you hit a certain point.... the body roll starts working against your skill... and suddenly the car holds you back. :)

The problem with most drivers (not only drifters) is that by the time they learn the meaning of upgrade only as your skill develops, they learned it by self-experience. And then we try to guide others, who are deaf until they realize it when they make the same mistake.

[BimmerToad]

For someone just starting, a fully stiff suspension would hurt, and using the weight of the car to control the drift is great and all, but when you hit a certain point.... the body roll starts working against your skill... and suddenly the car holds you back. :)

The problem with most drivers (not only drifters) is that by the time they learn the meaning of upgrade only as your skill develops, they learned it by self-experience. And then we try to guide others, who are deaf until they realize it when they make the same mistake.

I've been autocrossing for years and have a few years of track events under my belt, which doesn't make me an expert, but also doesn't make me new to the idea of driving at speed. I agree that a soft set up is good to learn on to emphasize weight transfer and driving line, but can feel vague after learning some car control. Solid bushings, a six point harness, and a firmer suspension take out some of that lean.

I totally agree with upgrading to meet with developing skills, though at times I think I'm in over my head with the car I've built. Oversteer in the car is very predictable with 225s all around, but I'm curious if it will be as predictable with sticky 225s up front and 205 all-seasons out back. I'm guessing it will, but I don't have any experience with the 'drifto' setup.

[Erick]

With a well built suspension setup.... oversteer always feels predictable. From experience of mixing and matching tires, when you run smaller inferior tires in the back, the problem is not when the rear end kicks out, but when you want it back in. When the rear tires are spinning and you want to regain traction, it's a bit harder to do so in inferior tires, as they dont grip as well as your front ones.

The pros of it will be that eventually it'll make your throttle and steering inputs a lot more precise, to the point you can control a car that's easily oversteering and is prone to snap oversteer (which happens a lot with e30s.... anyone with drifting experience should be able to chime in here and say how hard it is in the beginning to catch the rear end and hold it out in a transition without spinning out).

I'm sure a lot of this makes some sense to you since you have some real driving experience.

[92 mtechnic cabrio]

For someone just starting, a fully stiff suspension would hurt, and using the weight of the car to control the drift is great and all, but when you hit a certain point.... the body roll starts working against your skill... and suddenly the car holds you back. :)

The problem with most drivers (not only drifters) is that by the time they learn the meaning of upgrade only as your skill develops, they learned it by self-experience. And then we try to guide others, who are deaf until they realize it when they make the same mistake.

don't get me wrong. I KNOW I don't know it all. I was just trying to help out.

[BimmerToad]

I've been able to minimize the transition snap from sliding to gripping a few times, but I definately need more seat time.

I'm sure a lot of this makes some sense to you since you have some real driving experience.

As for the 'real driving experience' I am in no way an expert and as long as I still find enjoyment in driving, I figure I'll be learning how to drive the rest of my life.

I'm not looking to be the next drift king, I just want to toast a set of tires, and if I'm having fun getting sideways at a sanctioned event, all the better :up:

Jon: I saw you signed up for the event too. It looks like it's you, me and Neil to carry the E30 flag

[e30 gangsta]

Rock that shit guys. Just have fun. Remember to counter steer early and precise and you should be ok.

[Erick]

lol I guess I sound like a dick.

Jon, I was just reinforcing what you had to say. You have the right idea in mind. BimmerToad, by real I mean you have some track/auto-x experience.... unlike the kids who do all stupid shit in the street and call themselves the next Ayrton Senna.

[BimmerToad]

lol I guess I sound like a dick.

Jon, I was just reinforcing what you had to say. You have the right idea in mind. BimmerToad, by real I mean you have some track/auto-x experience.... unlike the kids who do all stupid shit in the street and call themselves the next Ayrton Senna.

No worries dude. At times it's hard to sort between emphasis and sarcasm :D

[92 mtechnic cabrio]

I've been able to minimize the transition snap from sliding to gripping a few times, but I definately need more seat time.



As for the 'real driving experience' I am in no way an expert and as long as I still find enjoyment in driving, I figure I'll be learning how to drive the rest of my life.

I'm not looking to be the next drift king, I just want to toast a set of tires, and if I'm having fun getting sideways at a sanctioned event, all the better :up:

Jon: I saw you signed up for the event too. It looks like it's you, me and Neil to carry the E30 flag

you and neil are signed up for next saturday at willow springs??

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