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    Another 24v swap (plus megasquirt!)

    To begin, the car is a 1985 325, 5 speed coupe with LSD. Afaik, it had the original m20b27 and getrag 260 installed. I boosted it last year and eventually worked my way up to 10 psi on a small garrett turbo. Apparently that was too much (plus I was running a bit lean at that point :-/ yay 100+% fuel injector duty cycles) and I blew the head gasket halloween weekend. The original plan was just to swap an 885 head on it when the motor popped, add higher flow fuel injectors, and go. However, my friend was rear ended in his e36 and that provided an opportunity for me to pick up a cheap m50tub25. Meet the donor!



    It has approx 170k miles on the clock and runs strong. I ran him in my e39 and I can confidently say it's a very strong motor. After it was totaled, we parted out what was valuable from the interior and had some fun with it.






    Fast forward over four months later to my spring break. I hopped in the e30 and apart from the battery being low, it started right up. I checked the oil and it was at the very bottom of the dipstick so I added about half a quart. Coolant was nowhere to be found and it drank over a gallon of water. The poor thing only needed to make it about 50 feet into the garage, but it wouldn't hold an idle and had ZERO power. I kept bumping the idle adjustment until it finally did idle and burnt the crap out of the clutch trying to get it into the garage. But it made it.

    (Note, there was a slight incident with a tree after I killed the motor which is why the hood is bent :shifty)


    The worst looking, yet running turbo setup you'll ever see


    Obligatory shot


    Awaiting removal


    One day later, we have this. I have friends who volunteered to help, but I ended up doing it all myself. My thought process was that I'd start on it and call them when I needed it help, but that time never came.


    Also got a delivery. Yay 24v swap parts! That includes the CSB, e28 m5 motor mounts, e21 trans mounts, 7k rpm cluster, and everything I need to rebuild the shift linkage and convert from the early e30 sheet metal shift console to the aluminum style linkage.


    ...and that's where the project sits right now. The donor motor is still in the e36, but only the engine, trans mounts, and shift linkage need to be undone before it can be removed. We're currently waiting on the weather to improve as that car is stored outside. Meanwhile the brake cylinder needs to be relocated and I need to modify the megasquirt to run the m50.
    1997 540i/6 - stock
    1985 325 - M50NV - Getrag 250 - 2.79 LSD - MS2/e -LC-1 - 750cc injectors - Blunttech Manifold - HX35 - AEM UEGO
    1991 318i - M50NV - Getrag 240 - 4.10 open - e36 rack - Smileys - 55w 5000k HIDs

    #2
    sweet deal, is the m50 vanos or NV?
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    http://r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=201774

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      #3
      vanos. The e36 is an early '94 and I'm still deciding how I want to handle vanos control with the MS.
      1997 540i/6 - stock
      1985 325 - M50NV - Getrag 250 - 2.79 LSD - MS2/e -LC-1 - 750cc injectors - Blunttech Manifold - HX35 - AEM UEGO
      1991 318i - M50NV - Getrag 240 - 4.10 open - e36 rack - Smileys - 55w 5000k HIDs

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        #4
        wow i have never seen a grill do that before hahaha. are you going to boost the m50?

        Patrick - IG:niicknac
        RIP 1987 BMW 325is - S50'd ZF 6-speed, flared, bagged

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          #5
          Originally posted by e30shmobberr View Post
          wow i have never seen a grill do that before hahaha. are you going to boost the m50?
          LOL, yeah... the car came like that. Apparently it had a slight engine fire in the past. All the fuel lines are dated 2003 and the fire extinguisher is partly used. And yes, I'm planning on boosting the m50 but it won't be until summer. My wallet needs some recovery time plus I need to sort out the rest of the car. It was $400 and needs some cosmetic help (obviously).
          1997 540i/6 - stock
          1985 325 - M50NV - Getrag 250 - 2.79 LSD - MS2/e -LC-1 - 750cc injectors - Blunttech Manifold - HX35 - AEM UEGO
          1991 318i - M50NV - Getrag 240 - 4.10 open - e36 rack - Smileys - 55w 5000k HIDs

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            #6
            Part II

            As of my last post, the m50 was still in the donor car. It rained for a couple days and the weather dropped from 70* to just above freezing. I guess I was so busy with pulling the motor I never even noticed how cold it was outside because I was comfortable. Anyway, the e36 proved to be much harder to work on than the e30, mostly due to logistics. My friend's driveway is on a slope as is his entire block. Just trying to get the car jacked up was a problem and our first attempt actually ended up with the car falling off of six jack stands, rolling back, and one of them went through the floor. Yay. Note this was at the top of his driveway which is the flattest portion. After that incident, we abandoned using jack stands and instead went for rims, junk yard style. Of course, to even attempt getting the car back in the air meant we needed to get the car back up to the top of his driveway. The e36 was no longer running so it was a pretty serious issue. My friend decided to use his e34 535i/5 as a push vehicle and it worked quite well with no damage done to either vehicle. We were then left with this:



            Now that it was finally somewhat safely lifted in the air, we began the process of actually removing the engine and trans. Again, this actually proved harder than the e30. His e36 was never touched so all the bolts were solid. We hit the bolts/nuts with liquid wrench, ATF, and acetone which allowed us to remove the engine mounts, trans mounts, and drive shaft bolts. However, the exhaust just wasn't cooperating, so we "sawzolved" it. As the day wore on, it wasn't the only thing we sawzolved :D We were pretty much ready to start pulling the motor so we took my 540 out to lunch, then went to my house to pick up the engine hoist, trailer, and tow vehicle.



            After some sawzolving, the engine slowly came out



            And some fun was had





            Baller status (yay coilovers! that was a hot e36 before it was rear ended :()


            We also had to get the car out of the driveway, but if you'll take note, we sawzalled the steering linkage... oops. Solution? Steer the wheels by hand! It worked and we backed the car into his yard for now.


            Finally we got the engine into the trailer and brought it to my house where the e30 was waiting with an open engine bay. Of course, as this motor was from an e36, we first had to swap the e34 oil pan on. I also deleted the p/s and a/c.


            And afterwards, it made it into the e30 after some massaging. Note that we should have also removed the a/c bracket. I didn't because I didn't feel like removing the crank pulley at the time, but it would have made dropping the engine in much easier. Also, there is no way in hell it will clear the factory brake booster. Yes, every 24v thread I read states this, but they say by a 1/2". We thought for sure we could make it work. It doesn't. Fix it before you drop the engine in!



            That's where it sits now. The engine is in, the trans is in, and the drive shaft is bolted up. It still needs electrical work done, fuel connected, and coolant hoses connected.
            1997 540i/6 - stock
            1985 325 - M50NV - Getrag 250 - 2.79 LSD - MS2/e -LC-1 - 750cc injectors - Blunttech Manifold - HX35 - AEM UEGO
            1991 318i - M50NV - Getrag 240 - 4.10 open - e36 rack - Smileys - 55w 5000k HIDs

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              #7
              Nice, Man you guys are talented, unfortunately, there is noone out here that is able to do the swap as comfortable as you guys are. Are you able to keep the A/C and P/S? Good Job!
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                #8
                your friend looks like he should be driving a camaro listening to like megedeth and doing burnouts for 14 year old girls.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by el bimmer View Post
                  Nice, Man you guys are talented, unfortunately, there is noone out here that is able to do the swap as comfortable as you guys are. Are you able to keep the A/C and P/S? Good Job!
                  I probably could have kept the a/c & p/s, but I deleted it. If anyone needs a good e36 compressor or p/s pump, PM me. I'm 95% sure the a/c worked fine and I know the p/s was functioning. The e30 is stripped and while I do DD it at times, creature comforts are not high on my want list.
                  Originally posted by Mike The Bavarian View Post
                  your friend looks like he should be driving a camaro listening to like megedeth and doing burnouts for 14 year old girls.
                  lol, yeah. He's a good guy though.
                  1997 540i/6 - stock
                  1985 325 - M50NV - Getrag 250 - 2.79 LSD - MS2/e -LC-1 - 750cc injectors - Blunttech Manifold - HX35 - AEM UEGO
                  1991 318i - M50NV - Getrag 240 - 4.10 open - e36 rack - Smileys - 55w 5000k HIDs

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                    #10
                    So I take it you swapped in the 3.2 turn E36 rack before installing the engine?

                    Best use of an E36 shell ever.

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                      #11
                      Love the hacking up of the e36.

                      Originally posted by Roysneon
                      $5 shipped?
                      Originally posted by MarkD
                      You are a strange dude, I'n not answering any more posts from you.

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                        #12
                        Lol, glad you guys like it. And no, I'm still running the e30 rack. I was in a time crunch to get the m50 dropped in, but I'll be running the e36 rack soon.
                        1997 540i/6 - stock
                        1985 325 - M50NV - Getrag 250 - 2.79 LSD - MS2/e -LC-1 - 750cc injectors - Blunttech Manifold - HX35 - AEM UEGO
                        1991 318i - M50NV - Getrag 240 - 4.10 open - e36 rack - Smileys - 55w 5000k HIDs

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                          #13
                          Post that e36 on CL as a "T-Top BEEMR!"

                          Dare you...
                          Need a part? PM me.

                          Get your Bass on. Luke's r3v Boxes are here: http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=198123

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Cyrix2k View Post

                            I wouldn't have posted this one. :p

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                              #15
                              lol. I should point out that's not me, it's another friend. I was behind the camera.
                              1997 540i/6 - stock
                              1985 325 - M50NV - Getrag 250 - 2.79 LSD - MS2/e -LC-1 - 750cc injectors - Blunttech Manifold - HX35 - AEM UEGO
                              1991 318i - M50NV - Getrag 240 - 4.10 open - e36 rack - Smileys - 55w 5000k HIDs

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