M20B29 w/ Triple Webers into my '71 2002

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  • SkiFree
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    88SuperETABD - This is my personal car, currently it sees about 60 miles a day. I do remember talking with you!

    Couple little updates.

    STEREO SETUP -----------------------------------------------------------------------

    Radio - Finished wiring diagram for an ipod-controlled hidden stereo setup. Thanks to the guys in the audio section for edu-ma-cating me.



    Tried to work with the rusty becker radio, didn't work out so good. It was just too far gone for me and my limited electronic knowledge. Instead I found a practically new-old-stock Becker Europa that was miss-labeled on ebay, got it for a steal! It was wrapped in 1972 newspaper, but USPS managed to crack the faceplate during shipping. Ordered a nice replacement from Becker Autosound.

    Dismantled the radio for a good cleaning, put on the replacement faceplate. Pretty excited to get this bad boy in there.


    TRANSMISSION ---------------------------------------------------------------------

    As mentioned before I'm going to combine the 4-speed bellhousing (getrag 242) from the euro E21 320/6 with the guts of the us-spec. E21 320i (5-speed getrag 245). Combined this should give me a tranny that does not require me to do any cutting to the transmission tunnel.

    Steve (not sure on user name) was kind enough to ship me the euro 4-speed tranny, to mate with a 245 here in the shop.

    Lined up the transmissions to get a visual understanding of the differences. Note the M20 260 bellhousing and case is pretty thick, hence the reason behind the need to expand the tranny tunnel.



    You can also see the bellhousing dimensional differences between the M10 and M20 tranny's

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  • SirSwag
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    Sick build man just blew my mind!!

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  • 88SuperETABD
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    Hot Damn! This work is beautiful, Is this your car andrew? or a company car? I remember talking to you about your 02 over the phone...

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  • deutschman
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    Im having a blast at boat building school right now. Ill be back in the Bay Area next year around September, and will be looking for another 2002 then. Alex at Caltuned has my m20 project 02 and will be finishing and fixing my mistakes when he finds the time. Should be nice just like all their other cars.
    Ill be at the next vintage!

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  • SkiFree
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    Igor, congrats on the E30 win at Socalvintage. Thanks for passing this on to Max.

    deutschman - bummed you couldn't come down. Hope all is well.

    Jonathan - as if your car isn't insane enough already... haha. Sending you a couple more pictures you might like.

    Short Term to-do "write-up" list.
    -Hidden stereo system
    -Getrag E21 323 4speed tranny/combine with Getrag 245 to create skinny M20 compatible 5-speed.

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  • tinkwithanr
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    Great as always. Those are some serious camber plates on the CSL. It's giving me bad ideas.....

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  • catuned
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    Awesome Write Up Andrew! And great seeing you again today! I will pass this info over to Max!

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  • deutschman
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    Very nice job on the diff write up Andrew! I hope you are having/had a lot of fun at scam vintage!

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  • SkiFree
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    Haha, my 2 year old just saw "Cars" for the first time, he's hooked & I'm proud.

    Thanks for the accolades guys, its creeping along.

    Started thinking about fuel delivery and throttle linkage a bit more, so the following is just some ramblings....

    I want to do a top mount Bar-Style linkage with an arm to each carb. The downside to this is if I run a universal linkage kit from weber then each arm is a threaded rod with jam nut (to be shortened or lengthened per application) this will mean that to sync the carbs, each lever will need to be EXACTLY the same. The room for error and the possibility that the jam nuts could loosen, is just too much potential headache.



    The solution is going to be to make some levers with fixed attachment points specifically for the M20 and this manifold. Will need to mock up a universal setup to check for length and angle, pretty straight forward. From the bar I'll need the proper sized cable (Lokar). Was talking with Patrick @ Midnight Motorsports and he said he's got a pretty sweet Lokar hot-rod style pedal assembly, will have to look into it a bit more.

    Fuel
    Carter Low-pressure pump near the tank fed to a fuel regulator in the engine bay, then run a stainless hard line to each carb.

    Inspiration is the ex-Korman E9 CSL

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  • pommeree
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    Fatastic thread. Especially ... well ... especially all of it.

    Also, anyone ever see "Mater's Tall Tales" and the episode where Mater and Lighting McQueen go to the moon, then Lightning has a little trouble with the re-entry when they get back to earth ...

    Mater, "Just watch out on that re-entry"
    Lightining, "Watch out on the wha-? Ow. OW! Hot. Hot. HOT! HOT! HOT!"

    Last edited by pommeree; 09-20-2012, 10:00 AM.

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  • JJGBMW323
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    Great write up can you build me a diff for my project car

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  • 5Toes
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    WOW

    awesome writeup man!

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  • future rs
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    your buildup is well documented! love reading threads like this.

    BTW love the avatar :) best skiing game ever made.

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  • SkiFree
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    Thanks Lorin for the input, none of the extractors I had on hand did the job. Will have to try the heating process on the next go around.

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  • LJ851
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    Nice writeup andrew.

    There are a couple other ways to remove a blind bearing race besides drilling holes.

    One is a blind bearing extractor and if that cant be made to work (very unusual) you can take a mig welder and weld a stout bead around the inside I D of the race. 3/4 of the way around is usually enough, and as the weld cools it contracts and shrinks the bearing and it will usually fall out.

    Also, just heating the whole assembly to 350 degrees or so would allow the bearing to fall out (or close to it) due to the components different mean diameters.

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