M3 Rep - the sunk cost build

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  • bmwstephen
    R3VLimited
    • May 2009
    • 2463

    #61
    Originally posted by bmwmech1
    Actually, speaking from the experience I gained from my project, I can say that the M3 C-pillar is indeed a cap that fits over the C-pillar. The quarter panels of the regular E30 and the E30 M3 are exactly the same from the base of the rear window up the C-pillar to the roof skin seam. The M3 C-pillar is a stamped piece of sheetmetal that fits over top of the regular C-pillar and is spot-welded along the roof, down the C-pillar and all around the perimeter of the pinch seam that forms the regular window opening. I have an 87E that I converted to an M3 clone using all new BMW sheetmetal, except for the C-pillar, which was from a wrecked M3 I bought to complete the project. Not boasting, but I probably have a better knowledge of the differences between the regular E30 and the E30 M3 than just about anyone on the planet. I can't speak to how this particular car was converted, but to do it properly requires a fair amount of work, a chunk of change and a little luck in finding some of the NLA parts, even if you do all of the work yourself.

    Carl, your caster issue looks much better... if you look at some pictures of stock E30 M3's from the side, you will notice that they have a wheel centerline very much like yours, so you've made progress indeed!

    Garey
    so if I were opening the gas flap door on a regular m3, would I be able to see a second layer of sheet metal behind the wide-bodied panel?

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    • M-technik-3
      I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
      • Oct 2003
      • 18946

      #62
      The cap along the top to the roof was functional as well as it broke the air up and caused it to tumble across the spoiler for a vortex generator.
      https://www.facebook.com/BentOverRacing

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      • bmwmech1
        E30 Enthusiast
        • Jun 2010
        • 1075

        #63
        Originally posted by bmwstephen
        so if I were opening the gas flap door on a regular m3, would I be able to see a second layer of sheet metal behind the wide-bodied panel?
        No, it's a single layer, stamped quarter panel, just like the regular E30's. It just has a box flare stamped into it rather than the smaller flare right at the wheel opening. The only place it is a double panel is around the wheel opening, where it's folded over on and spot welded to the outer wheel house, just like a regular E30...

        Originally posted by M-technik-3
        The cap along the top to the roof was functional as well as it broke the air up and caused it to tumble across the spoiler for a vortex generator.
        Very true... they could have made that junction smoother, but didn't for that reason...

        Garey


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        • samiam3356
          E30 Mastermind
          • Jul 2009
          • 1901

          #64
          The while I'm in there list always kills! Good progress! Always look forward to this thread

          Originally posted by Roysneon
          $5 shipped?
          Originally posted by MarkD
          You are a strange dude, I'n not answering any more posts from you.

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          • carlb
            Grease Monkey
            • Feb 2011
            • 359

            #65
            I haven't updated this thread in awhile. I've recently had to change out the clutch, flywheel, slave cylinder and throw-out bearing. Apparently, the slave was installed wrong. With all that new stuff, it is surprising how well, how smoothly, it drives. Good stuff.

            While I wait for LS3 mounting equipment, I've put some Recaro Sportsters in there. I'm going to sell the upholstered SRD's (I think they're fake too) with matching rears. But, I'll need to get black rear seat replacements first. Pics:





            1985 M635csi Black on Buffalo
            1985 535is Zinno on Black
            1985 M635csi White on Pacific Blue
            1988 M3 Lachssilber on Black (sold)
            1987 M3 Zinno on Black (totaled)

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            • M-technik-3
              I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
              • Oct 2003
              • 18946

              #66
              How are those seats? I like them some days and others I don't. Not sure why but hate em/love em.
              https://www.facebook.com/BentOverRacing

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              • carlb
                Grease Monkey
                • Feb 2011
                • 359

                #67
                So far, I've got nothing but love for them. They're firm. But, they are so much more ergonomically supportive than the SRD's that they feel nothing but more comfortable. Especially for my back, they just support me better.
                1985 M635csi Black on Buffalo
                1985 535is Zinno on Black
                1985 M635csi White on Pacific Blue
                1988 M3 Lachssilber on Black (sold)
                1987 M3 Zinno on Black (totaled)

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                • d.dalseno
                  Noobie
                  • May 2013
                  • 6

                  #68
                  Keep up the good work.

                  Loving that you quoted Itzhak Perlman...and that you have an FD.

                  Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 2

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                  • carlb
                    Grease Monkey
                    • Feb 2011
                    • 359

                    #69
                    Thanks d.dalseno. I'm still working it.

                    Yesterday morning, I installed a new glove box, a new panel under the steering column and this little cupholder/phone holder/usb port... Pretty neat. I added a little plastic below the cup holder to catch condensation. Other than that, it's in there like it's supposed to be:

                    1985 M635csi Black on Buffalo
                    1985 535is Zinno on Black
                    1985 M635csi White on Pacific Blue
                    1988 M3 Lachssilber on Black (sold)
                    1987 M3 Zinno on Black (totaled)

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                    • LSM3
                      Grease Monkey
                      • May 2012
                      • 340

                      #70
                      Damn those are some sexy seats. Lmk if you have any questions with dropping an LSX in you car.

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                      • carlb
                        Grease Monkey
                        • Feb 2011
                        • 359

                        #71
                        Originally posted by LSM3
                        Damn those are some sexy seats. Lmk if you have any questions with dropping an LSX in you car.

                        http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=250378
                        Thanks! I'm sure I'll take you up on it.
                        1985 M635csi Black on Buffalo
                        1985 535is Zinno on Black
                        1985 M635csi White on Pacific Blue
                        1988 M3 Lachssilber on Black (sold)
                        1987 M3 Zinno on Black (totaled)

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                        • carlb
                          Grease Monkey
                          • Feb 2011
                          • 359

                          #72
                          Retrofitting ABS

                          How difficult would it be to add ABS to my e30? The car is an '87 325e. I'm astonished it's not part of the car and would prefer to have it on. I've started to assemble most of the parts. But, I can't find anyone who's done this. Just folks removing it with dreams of being Ayrton Senna. I'm no Senna. I need that safety net.

                          I've got the following parts:
                          • ABS Computer
                          • ABS pump
                          • 2 front sensors
                          • 2 rear sensors (same part number, so I assume they're interchangeable)
                          • Some brake hard line

                          What I'm not sure about:
                          Do I need a new master cylinder or will any with the appropriate # in/out lines suffice?
                          Will the body harness have connections for the sensors and the computer if it is unmodified?
                          If there's no remnant of the body harness connections, how should I wire it up?

                          I've looked at the Real OEM diagrams lovingly for a long time. And, I've tried to find an electrical diagram of the ABS system online and I can't locate.

                          So folks, tell me what am I missing? Any resources to can point me to?
                          1985 M635csi Black on Buffalo
                          1985 535is Zinno on Black
                          1985 M635csi White on Pacific Blue
                          1988 M3 Lachssilber on Black (sold)
                          1987 M3 Zinno on Black (totaled)

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                          • carlb
                            Grease Monkey
                            • Feb 2011
                            • 359

                            #73
                            Well, the Sunk Cost Build may have just come to an ignominious end... This happened today:




                            Driving down the road with a car full of kids. A young man in a Honda CRV pulls up to a stop sign on an adjoining road, briefly pauses and pulls out right in front of me. I slam on the brakes and slam right into him a 1/2 second later. He said that he didn't see my bright red iconic BMW headed his way. Very sad day. Luckily, no one was hurt.
                            1985 M635csi Black on Buffalo
                            1985 535is Zinno on Black
                            1985 M635csi White on Pacific Blue
                            1988 M3 Lachssilber on Black (sold)
                            1987 M3 Zinno on Black (totaled)

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                            • AwakenNoMore
                              E30 Fanatic
                              • Dec 2010
                              • 1291

                              #74
                              I'm so sorry . . .
                              1991 325i - "Scambles" The Daily Driven lightly modded.
                              1988 Mazda RX-7 TII "Mako" The Free Dorito
                              bacon by Jared Laabs, on Flickr

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                              • FredK
                                R3V OG
                                • Oct 2003
                                • 14739

                                #75
                                Dang. That's tough to see. I'm glad no one was hurt.

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