Project Facelift

[aaron.j]

weld it.. and it wont rust

[Jand3rson]

weld it.. and it wont rust

Thank you for your insight on what's already been covered several times.

We're not welding it, there's no need.

[mentaleeill]

self etching primer is not a sealer, only aids in paint sticking to bare metal. the topcoat is the sealer or an epoxy primer/ sealer is needed. self etch the bare metal and when painted with the topcoat it will be sealed. also fiberglass not sealed over with paint will only trap and hold moisture between it and the other surface, as it is porous. good luck and keep us posted. im sure it will look great when finished.

[Il Duce]

can't wait any longer josh. don't sleep anymore till its done!

[Jand3rson]

self etching primer is not a sealer, only aids in paint sticking to bare metal. the topcoat is the sealer or an epoxy primer/ sealer is needed. self etch the bare metal and when painted with the topcoat it will be sealed. also fiberglass not sealed over with paint will only trap and hold moisture between it and the other surface, as it is porous. good luck and keep us posted. im sure it will look great when finished.

We'll be doing a light coat of self etching primer on the bare metal front valence, then the standard primer, then paint.

Don't worry Kevin, huge progress is coming this weekend!

[AndrewBird]

Regular automotive primer is not a sealer and is water soluable. It will soak up moisture and eventually cause rust bubbles.

That is why I said primer is not what keeps metal from rusting. Paint is. This is why prep is so important. If you don't remove all possible contaminants from the surface that is being sprayed, rust WILL form, regardless of what you spray on it.

the only way you can use stainless steel rivets is with a rivetting air tool. A regular hand held pop rivet gun will not work on stainless steel rivets.

Not true. My father and I put in around 100 SS pop rivets on a bunch of trim on our river sled (boat) a few years back with only a hand riveter. You just have to have a good quality rivet gun that can handle the extra strain of SS rivets.

self etching primer is not a sealer, only aids in paint sticking to bare metal. the topcoat is the sealer or an epoxy primer/ sealer is needed. self etch the bare metal and when painted with the topcoat it will be sealed. also fiberglass not sealed over with paint will only trap and hold moisture between it and the other surface, as it is porous.

Finally, someone who speaks the truth.

[BDSax]

get some stuff from eastwood



it stops rust bigtime. i put it all in my new sunroof where they usually rust out, so it will never rust again. i deffinatly recoment it. then you can paint right over it

[AndrewBird]

That stuff reminds me of POR-15.

[Jand3rson]

That stuff reminds me of POR-15.

Probably more or less the same thing.

Looking real good:up: How are you going to make the rear bumper line up? You going to cut it like I did mine?

Mike, just to let you know, Andy and I ended up going with the method that you used, rather than Jordan's. But instead of just cutting the skin of the bumper (at least, that's what it looks like you did), we went ahead and cut through the entire bumper, taking it all off in one solid piece.

[Avus E30]

I demand pictures from the weekend.

[YAN-3]

dude i cant wait to see the finished front bumper. lookin good, more pics man more pics.

[Mike325]

Probably more or less the same thing.


Mike, just to let you know, Andy and I ended up going with the method that you used, rather than Jordan's. But instead of just cutting the skin of the bumper (at least, that's what it looks like you did), we went ahead and cut through the entire bumper, taking it all off in one solid piece.

Oh, so you cut through the black plastic behind the skin? That is not what I did but still works the same. Why did you change to my meathod? Just wondering? How did it turn out? Pics damn it:p

[Vedubin01]

Yeah, no shit......more pics for sure!

[Jand3rson]

Trust me guys, there are shitloads of pics, I'll have them uploaded in a few hours, when I get home. I'm still over here at Andrew's house, but the chopping and bonding of the rear bumper and trim is DONE. The pieces are back together, bonded hard as a rock with fiberglass. We're going to let the fiberglass harden overnight, and then in a day or two, bondo the seams and get everything ready for paint.

Mike, we decided to go with your method after reading through Jordan's and kind of realizing that his method was WAY more mork than is actually needed. What he did worked great and came out looking really good, but it's more than you need to do. And with the way you/we did it, you retain the OEM end of the bumper, which I would rather have. I know you guys are chomping at the bit as much as I am, I'll have lots of pics for you very soon. :up:

[Mike325]

That is how I felt with mine. Let me know if you have any questions with it. How are you reconnecting the two halfs? Oviously don't use bondo;) Maybe fiberglass?