84 318i - restomod

[Zorin]

Thank you for your kind words.

I bought rusty 84 318i instead of minty 91 318is, because I wanted a project not a show car. My car will be a summer fun driver for me, my wife and soon be daughter.

Cars get welded all the time and it is a fact. If I wanted mint e30, I would have bought one.

[nando]

I want to see a turbo M10 in there - it'll make more power than an M50 swap and probably cost less :p

[mikeedler]

and you wonder why people think your a dick and hate you Jordan!!
just because the car was welded doesnt for one second make it a "junker"-regardless of how much welding.

nice progress by the way.
I replaced the complete floor section on my fathers 1956 sedan delivery a few years back, (it was in 4 pieces, and the braces)and if you really want, you could make it to look like nothing was ever welded in there with enough work.

just ignore jordan, hes just upset because he has a bent valance that he doesnt care about

[Zorin]

I've done plenty of welding, just not halfass patching. I'd prefer total out a car long before I did that, which is exactly what happened to my E21 project car which I had intended a complete resto for. When I saw the patching it would require (not 25% as bad as yours) I junked the car. Fact of the matter is a patched car is just that, no where near as good as the factory, and no two ways about it as far as I'm concerned.. a junker.

Again though.. I wasn't looking for a fight, but if you chose to continue making smart ass replies I can find the time to waste a bunch of yours.

How can you be sure of my welding skills - did you see my welding ?
I learned from an older guy who was welding for Krupp.

I was not looking for a fight, but asked for answers, which you didn't really provide.

Most of rebuild cars have patchwork done so I am not the first and last one.
Also if you notice most of BMWs are machine spot welded and don't have continuos welds, which are stronger but more expensive.

You attacked me stating that it is impossible for a repaired car to be as good as new and stronger based on few photos. You didn't provide any experience other than photos of the car you could have rebuild in a shop or with somebody with skills. Based on the photos, I can state that your e30 is nothing more than poorly redone e30 with cheap fiberglass pieces - am I right ? probably not. I can also state that you gave up on E21 because of lack of skills - am I right ?

Ask questions before you start criticism and be ready to provide back up for your claims - e.g. how welding destroys metal, how patches don't work etc.

Remember not all comments to other's work need to be negative.

[Jordan]

I've done plenty of welding, just not halfass patching. I'd prefer total out a car long before I did that, which is exactly what happened to my E21 project car which I had intended a complete resto for. When I saw the patching it would require (not 25% as bad as yours) I junked the car. Fact of the matter is a patched car is just that, no where near as good as the factory, and no two ways about it as far as I'm concerned.. a junker.

Again though.. I wasn't looking for a fight, but if you chose to continue making smart ass replies I can find the time to waste a bunch of yours.

[Zorin]

You can spend some time here and answer your questions:
http://oldmary.lqhome.com:16080/~jor...mine/index.php

nice gallery, but the only car you rebuild according to the photos is the e30.
I don't see any photos of your welding - did I miss them ?

[Jordan]

You can spend some time here and answer your questions:

http://oldmary.lqhome.com:16080/~jordansarette/coppermine/index.php

[Zorin]

I'm just going to leave you to your ignorance/bliss now. Good luck with your project, so long as YOU are happy with ol' patches thats all that matters.

can you please answer my questions so that I can learn from you ?

[Jordan]

1. curious - how many cars did you rebuild ?
2. curious - how many years experience in welding do you have ?
3. according to you once metal rusts and you cut it out no new metal can be welded in as the heat will destroy the rest - right ?
4. again car is not resting on its side but on 2 6x6 blocks placed under main support / load barring points of the car - you can come and see it person if you wish

please post photos of the projects you did yourself so that I can learn - thank you !

I'm just going to leave you to your ignorance/bliss now. Good luck with your project, so long as YOU are happy with ol' patches thats all that matters.

[Zorin]

If you say so. From time to time, I love to tie bits of bungee cords together and use them for jumping off bridges, Because, as sveryone knows patched together peices are extra strong.

great comparison - according to your logic welding has no sense as welding in patches doesn't work. I guess same goes for anything that has to be put together. I wonder why they don't simply cast cars from forms - no welds !

[Zorin]

I'm not looking for a fight but it simply isn't. If you don't understand that I suppose you in this case are better off for it. I'm just saying the patches look lousy, and definitely aren't "as good as new" nor stronger than original. The heat alone you have imparted into the panels surrounding weakens them. Having the car laying on its side with 2x4's propped against non-load bearing members can't be good for it either.

1. curious - how many cars did you rebuild ?
2. curious - how many years experience in welding do you have ?
3. according to you once metal rusts and you cut it out no new metal can be welded in as the heat will destroy the rest - right ?
4. again car is not resting on its side but on 2 6x6 blocks placed under main support / load barring points of the car - you can come and see it person if you wish

please post photos of the projects you did yourself so that I can learn - thank you !

[Teaguer]

I just love the supportive nature of r3v .

[Jordan]

Patchwork is done with most body repairs
Everybody has an opinion, but regardless it will be as good as new

I'm not looking for a fight but it simply isn't. If you don't understand that I suppose you in this case are better off for it. I'm just saying the patches look lousy, and definitely aren't "as good as new" nor stronger than original. The heat alone you have imparted into the panels surrounding weakens them. Having the car laying on its side with 2x4's propped against non-load bearing members can't be good for it either.

[Farbin Kaiber]

Patchwork is done with most body repairs so there is nothing wrong with it other than visual difference between original and welded in pieces.
Everybody has an opinion, but regardless it will be as good as new and stronger as well.

If you say so. From time to time, I love to tie bits of bungee cords together and use them for jumping off bridges, Because, as sveryone knows patched together peices are extra strong.

[Zorin]

I agree with the likelyhood of all of that, the bolded of course is quite impossible.

Patchwork is done with most body repairs so there is nothing wrong with it other than visual difference between original and welded in pieces.
Everybody has an opinion, but regardless it will be as good as new and stronger as well.