Another marital problem thread....

[jrhaile]

Oh that's nothing compared to the bullshit perpetrated by the Christian Church. Religion of any kind is a plague and needs to be eradicated. It really is a disgusting and embarrassing feature of humanity.

Sorry to hear about the strain that this is putting on your relationship. What you need to do is reason with her. Lay out the arguments and evidence for your claims in such a manner that she cannot refute. Don't pressure her or bombard her all the time, but look for subtle opportunities where you can make a point. If she is a reasonable human being, she will eventually come to understand what an amazing tool logic and rational thought can be. Best of luck to you.

Not even CLOSE. You know nothing about the Christian church obviously so don't speak. You took this opportunity to slam a church and relgion in which you only know what you hear in the media and anthiest sites. Please refrain from even remotely comparing the Christian church to a Scientology one.

As someone who has studied religion for over 7 years, this is a very tough decision you made, Josh. When someone is brought up into something as tight knit as scientology, it's VERY hard to convince them otherwise. And the fact she has already told you she chose family over you really doesn't help your cause. If you truly love her, continue to try but you are fighting an uphill battle.

I must praise you though for leaving the church especially one as intimidating as the Scientology one. You have massive balls.

My wife and I were both brought up Christian. She has recently tried re-discovering her "faith" but I'm having a hard time following suit. This has brought some tension into our house a bit because I don't fully believe everything in the bible and generally try to tell her that things in the bible are stories meant to be used for guides as a way to live life. She on the other hand will respond with "you don't believe in God then because this is what he wanted in the bible." It's an uphill battle for me as well but I don't think it's that bad where it will really change our relationship because we generally don't discuss it unless we're watching the history channel :D

Oh that's nothing compared to the bullshit perpetrated by the Christian Church. Religion of any kind is a plague and needs to be eradicated. It really is a disgusting and embarrassing feature of humanity.

Sorry to hear about the strain that this is putting on your relationship. What you need to do is reason with her. Lay out the arguments and evidence for your claims in such a manner that she cannot refute. Don't pressure her or bombard her all the time, but look for subtle opportunities where you can make a point. If she is a reasonable human being, she will eventually come to understand what an amazing tool logic and rational thought can be. Best of luck to you.

[AndrewBird]

Think of it from this aspect. You are telling her to her face that what she believes in is a lie and you are proving it to her with facts. That's a tough realization to come by. I'm not saying you are wrong about any of it, but just try and see it from the other side.

[Farbin Kaiber]

Josh, I hope you know where I stand on the religion portion of your issue, but the relationship part, I cannot imagine how tough it is for you. I know you have already placed doubts in her mind by seeing the one she loves finding the truth, and it may or may not be enough to sway her to look for the truth as well. I hope for the best outcome for the both of you.

[accident]

Amazing how much of this is going on (all of the sudden it seems).

My only input is 1: That I belive that Truth always prevails (eventually) and 2: Going to "war" about much of anything is a bad idea.

Also #3 Scientology seems loony to me as well.

+1

Keep your head up and hope for the best. It's really all that you can do. Try to be proactive about working this out with her.

[Liam]

Amazing how much of this is going on (all of the sudden it seems).

My only input is 1: That I belive that Truth always prevails (eventually) and 2: Going to "war" about much of anything is a bad idea.

Also #3 Scientology seems loony to me as well.

[joshh]

As some of you may know, I was a Scientologist. Born into it.
Over the last 8 months I finally started to look and search for things to answer many of my questions about what I experienced in Scientology. Thus I decided to finally leave the church and not only not support it but tell people about what I know to protect others from Scientology.

My wife and I met and married while we worked for the "church" (no it's not a real church). We've been married for 16 years. I started to tell my wife about what I found out about Scientology and my questions. She wanted absolutely no part of it. In fact she was so upset that she told me she doesn't want to lose her mom over this and would have no choice but to leave me if I started to talk publically against the "church".

Scientology has a disconnection policy where if someone talks badly about it, Scientology declares the person a Suppressive person and all other Scientologists are forbid to talk to that person. I could go on and on but I already started a thread about Scientology.

This talk we had was a few months ago. I agreed to keep quiet about what I found and not to do anything public about it. Or to even search for things on the net about Scientology. This promise I couldn't do. I kept searching the net and finding lie after lie from the church.

Friday night I tried to talk to her about Scientology's library campaign. Scientology claims they have a full set o their 18 books in every library on the planet. It's a huge lie. I brought it up with her to show her that the "church" are fucking liars and things aren't as they say it is.

She has hardly spoken to me since.
I can't believe the child she has become about this. Indoctrination into Scientology runs deep. They refuse to so much as even listen to what you have to say about it. Even if what you have to say is fact and you can prove it. Specially if it's at all negative.

I asked her 2 days ago whether she was going to keep pretending I don't exist..."That's the plan".

Our marriage has been great up till now. We barely even argue and when we do, it's always about money. Which ends up not being a big deal.