The Glenn Beck Program

[Victell]

outstanding entertainment value? Have you ever tried to sit through "Red eye" on FNC with that beedy eyed lispy little goon?

As for the conservative talk radio comment I will assume you were being sarcastic. Or were you being sarcastic in your entire post?

its sometimes entertaining to me how far some people will degrade themselves to chase a dollar and some ratings. other times its not funny at all.

[mscott]

I remember about a year ago hearing a media bias study out of NYU. I'm going to try and find the link.

If my memory is correct, the NYU study actually rated Fox News centrist with a mild swing to conservative on certain shows. As a whole, Fox News was the most centrist network. They found all the other major news programs as mildly to extremely liberal biased; NBC, CBS, ABC, MSNBC, & CNN. I think the study was a 10-15 year study that included Clinton's term.

Here's another that came out in 2005 from UCLA.

http://www.newsroom.ucla.edu/portal/ucla/Media-Bias-Is-Real-Finds-UCLA-6664.aspx?RelNum=6664

Anyway, I like Glenn Beck. He's an independent thinker. If anybody watched his show last week when he had an open panel of tea party attendees from across the county, you would find that he's not against Rep. or Dems. He against big government and the direction that this country is going.

[mbonder]

I really don't have an opinion either way about the left or rightness of the news channels, but I would like to point out that some of the logic here is a little faulty.

Just because different media outlets donated to DNC more than they did to RNC, DOES NOT mean that a media outlet or an individual isn't the single largest contributor. Hell I'm just going to throw out a hypothetical to make my point:

John waffleswaffleswaffles contributes 70% of his money to DNC and 30% of his money to RNC. If his 30% to the RNC is the largest contribution that RNC gets, he's still the largest contributor to that group, even if he donated over twice that amount to DNC.

So e30 cabrio, most of those percentage facts that you posted on page 2 or 3 don't really mean squat because the quote that started this all was referring to Merdoch, not to FNC. The guy was trying to say that Merdoch donates money to RNC and also runs FNC, albeit the grammar was a little messy, but you misread it and started flying off the hook with the links to campaign contributions.

Also, Merdoch could have been supporting Hillary because he thought the Rep had a better chance against her than Obama, the world may never know.

End of story...

[Schnitzer318is]

Originally Posted by joshh
I wonder if he says stuff just for ratings. Like whack job Anne Coulter.

..or O'Reilley, Hannity, Limbaugh, etc.

QFT

I try to watch Fox to get the other side of the coin's opinion, but they rarely seem to be providing anything of substance. Mostly ranting... though they do have some hot chicks on there.

[aaron325ix]

Have you been watching Beck and his investigation of ACORN?

It's certainly not "The Daily Show" or anything like that.

My bet is you haven't been.

The sad fact is, pretty much no one else is investigating ACORN and they are corrupt and fraudulent and the people at the top have been embezzling money while campaigning for a "living wage" while paying their own employee's below the minimum wage, not paying OT, etc...

So after all that, what youre saying is that you like GB.
Got it. I just hope you honestly dont think he is funny. :p

[E30 Cabrio]

Stewart and Colbert are on COMEDY central at 11 and Beck is on a "NEWS" channel at 5!!
His program is comedy and maybe it should be on CC, because i only watch it to see what bullshit comes out of his mouth..

Scary part is people watch his show and agree with his views!!

Have you been watching Beck and his investigation of ACORN?

It's certainly not "The Daily Show" or anything like that.

My bet is you haven't been.

The sad fact is, pretty much no one else is investigating ACORN and they are corrupt and fraudulent and the people at the top have been embezzling money while campaigning for a "living wage" while paying their own employee's below the minimum wage, not paying OT, etc...

[E30 Cabrio]

I find that you hold your own opinions in remarkably high esteem.

Claiming that other news stations are biased (which is a worthless statement) is not a response to someone claiming that Fox is biased. Your saber-rattling and completely indignant self-righteousness are not making as big an impression as you hoped, right? Shame.

You missed the point completely.

BTW, the poster claimed FNC is the largest single donor to the RNC and I proved him wrong with facts, which is something that is sorely missing from most of this thread.

Most of the people who claim FNC is biased have only watched excerpts on YouTube or "The Daily Show" or some shit like that.

And as Hallen points out above, FNC slants their talk shows to the right, but not their "hard news"

Can't say the same for just about every other network and news channel which slants their commentary and their hard news to the left.

Again, I ask the question: Is Fox News right wing, or does it only appear that way in contrast to the rest of the media, the same media that gives 78% of their campaign contributions to the DNC?

Perhaps FNC is pulling high ratings because they are not doing what everyone else is doing, and that is, reporting news from a left leaning perspective.

Murdoch saw a void (balanced news) and filled it and reaped high ratings and made money while these other networks are fading and losing money because they are doing what every other media outlet is doing.

And just about every newspaper links to the AP or the NY Times for National news and those outlets lean left.

I've posted enough links to non-partisan, non-biased sources to back my claims.

People can wish to ignore them and keep parroting the same BS that isn't backed by facts at the risk of appearing intellectually lazy and ignorant.

If I make a claim, I will back it up with links to non-partisan sources and ask others to do the same.

Coming on here and stating "Fox News is right-wing and everyone knows it" without posting some facts to back it up is weak.

I've proven that the MSM has an inherent bias towards the left based on things like the fact that they donated 78% of their campaign money to the DNC, and that the biggest, most non-partisan media study shows that 18 of the top 20 media outlets lean left.

Take talk-radio out of the equation and that number is even higher.

Just because FNC is to the right of the MSM does not necessarily mean they are right of center, but the facts do prove that the MSM is left of center.

So again, how far left of center is the MSM and how far right of the MSM is FNC and are they right of center?

I argue that the success of FNC says that they are filling a void left by a MSM that leans left.

Is FNC right wing, or do they only appear so in contrast to the rest of the media which demonstrably and factually leans left?

[uofom3]

i really dislike glen beck - he's annoying as hell.

[aaron325ix]

Now Fox news def bends to the right. But at least they bring outstanding entertainment value. Shep Smith is friggin great. "News" on the left is not as fun as they're too busy trying to convince us they have no slant.

The REAL entertainment is "conservative" talk radio. Holee shit those guys are awesome!

outstanding entertainment value? Have you ever tried to sit through "Red eye" on FNC with that beedy eyed lispy little goon? Case in point, although there are many others this is the first I could think of: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVKlFT58Zwc

Making fun of a guy because his last name is Leslie? C'mon are these guys in 5th grade? At least "The Daily Show", is actually funny and intelligent.

As for the conservative talk radio comment I will assume you were being sarcastic. Or were you being sarcastic in your entire post? If so disregard all of the above.

[Joey Link]

Forgot to mention, I've been watching NewsHour and Business-something with Kenny a bit lately. Out of all the other media outlets and programs out there, those two seem to be the least biased of them all.

[Joey Link]

Verywell, I guess I was wrong. Maybe Rupert Murdoch isn't the big financial GOP supporter that I though he was.

He's definitely no Soros ;)

But he is a well known conservative advocate, and his Fox News channel is still the most biased source of news on any major television station. Even the liberal MSNBC can't hold a candle to the slant and bias the is Faux news. They have a dozen conservative pundits and not one centrist or liberal. Not a single one.

Personally I prefer to get my news from as unbiased a source as possible, so I usually go to CNN, the BBC or the IHT. All of those are known for their excellent reporting and investigating, and stay away from conservative/liberal punditry and other biased crap. To those in this thread who say they like to get their news from Fox, I suggest you try a more reliable and credible source.

It's all subjective to our own views. I agree that Fox News is very biased, but if they're an 8 on a scale of 1 to 10, MSNBC is a 17. Unbiased news sources don't exist, period.

[Victell]

Cable news is like pro wrestling, and you fools are actually arguing about it. Look at history, the media has been trying to sway public opinion one way or another long before your parents were born. Look up newspaper wars, Hearst family, or yellow journalism.

Now Fox news def bends to the right. But at least they bring outstanding entertainment value. Shep Smith is friggin great. "News" on the left is not as fun as they're too busy trying to convince us they have no slant.

The REAL entertainment is "conservative" talk radio. Holee shit those guys are awesome!

[e30sd]

fox's blatant conservative bias is acknowledged even at the highest levels, but it isn't some neo-con conspiracy. ailes and murdoch have both said if there was money in fronting a more liberal view, they would be all over it. it's money. get over it.

[Hallen]

Fox News is not biased. Noticed I stressed the word "news" there. They mostly cover what happened today kind of stuff and don't spend their time airing crap like that CNN "report" on the tea party rallies. They fairly and honestly cover what President did and said for example. They don't editorialize (much, certainly much less than other stations).

Fox opinion shows are definitely based around mostly conservative viewpoints and what they beleive to be key issues.

However, and this is the important part that most seem to miss: they still don't misrepresent facts like other networks are prone to do.

Yes, Beck gets on a roll and rants about all kinds of stuff I find somewhat silly and not deserving of air time. All their show hosts will pull out some catch phrase or their interpretation of the situation and brow beat their guests with it. It is showmanship and that's about it.

Fox uses this type of opinion show to get the ratings up. MSNBC, CNN, et -al use this type of opinion AS THE NIGHTLY NEWS. That is a huge difference and frankly, I am very surprised people don't understand that.

So Glen Beck is going off on Acorn? Good. It isn't really news right now, but Acorn should not be receiving government funding and the situation should be investigated properly. It isn't really news right now because there is nothing new, but somebody trying to get some attention on it is good. Maybe it will become news at some point.

Some of you seem to forget that you can't avoid the liberal media if you live in the US. Every time I read a piece on line from one of the major sources, including the AP, I see what they put out. They call it news.

Most of you complaining about Fox news don't watch fox news and also don't look at their web site. Obviously you are afraid it will burn your eyes out or you too might get brainwashed into thinking rationally. Stop repeating what you "hear" and start paying attention. Even if you find that Fox still does not work for you, at least you have opened your eyes and made an informed decision all on your own instead of repeating the "Faux" News thing that you heard some asshole HBO comic say at some point.

[kronus]

Take issue with the guy who hijacked the thread with falsehoods and lies, not the guy who corrected his ignorance.

I find that you hold your own opinions in remarkably high esteem.

Claiming that other news stations are biased (which is a worthless statement) is not a response to someone claiming that Fox is biased. Your saber-rattling and completely indignant self-righteousness are not making as big an impression as you hoped, right? Shame.