Shit hits the fan in Fort Hood, Texas. 50 casualties.

[ACMF74]

this is r3v, we don't have morals..

touche

[kishg]

So the moral of this thread is Christianity and Islam are NOT violent religions just the misinterpretations of some radical fundamentalists?

this is r3v, we don't have morals..

[ACMF74]

So the moral of this thread is Christianity and Islam are NOT violent religions just the misinterpretations of some radical fundamentalists?

[kishg]

Not really.

Kishg, you really need to understand that we can't read your mind and sarcasm just sounds like words when written down. If you want to make a joke, please say it out loud to yourself first to see if it makes sense. I don't care if you are in a public library. Say it. I'm sure the people around you will let you know if it is funny or not. :nice::p

[Hallen]

what, did you miss me?

Not really.

Kishg, you really need to understand that we can't read your mind and sarcasm just sounds like words when written down. If you want to make a joke, please say it out loud to yourself first to see if it makes sense. I don't care if you are in a public library. Say it. I'm sure the people around you will let you know if it is funny or not. :nice::p

[kronus]

lol. gotcha

what, did you miss me?

[Stephen]

lol. gotcha

[kronus]

^ where the hell have you been?

Being skullfucked by school. No time for internets forums, but I have an hour of downtime today so I came to troll r3v :3

[kishg]

2) I thought you had more foresight and common sense than this. It's obvious.

where did you get that idea ?

[Stephen]

^ where the hell have you been?

[kronus]

Maj. Hasan kills Americans at Fort Hood, However Obama states "I would caution against jumping to conclusions." Why is our Government so quick to jump to conclusions when Joe Wilson calls Obama as a 'Liar' and claim it as racism, but when a Muslim American who has a background of contacting Al Qaeda leaders, attending the same radical mosques as 9/11 planners, they want to get the facts before judging.

Because members of various American armed forces jumping to conclusions and assaulting coworkers with Arabic-sounding names is a less favorable set of repercussions than Joe Wilson being accused of anything after being a disruptive dick.

1) You're grasping at straws.
2) I thought you had more foresight and common sense than this. It's obvious.
3) Lay off the Fox topical entertainment channel.

[Alkasquawlik]

Maj. Hasan kills Americans at Fort Hood, However Obama states "I would caution against jumping to conclusions." Why is our Government so quick to jump to conclusions when Joe Wilson calls Obama as a 'Liar' and claim it as racism, but when a Muslim American who has a background of contacting Al Qaeda leaders, attending the same radical mosques as 9/11 planners, they want to get the facts before judging.

[kishg]

Um, what radical Christian groups are running around blowing themselves up, extolling murder, and training thousands of young men to be holy warriors?

:facepalm it was meant to be a joke.. duh..


but since you asked, look up national liberation front of tripura, nagaland rebels, KKK (yes a purportedly Christian group), Army of God, Lord's Resistance Army to name a few.. not to mention the assorted nutjobs who will go on killing sprees in "God's name".

[der affe]

All I've read seems to indicate that they are seen as a destabilizing force and not welcome.

Check out this and this interview thread of two people living in the West Bank. At some point, both explain their resentment of extremist suicide bombers and Hamas/Fatah. There are also some other interesting points made.

thanks kronus, both interesting reads

[Hallen]

why arre the non violent christians not greatly upset by the actions of the radical/violent sects and making a great effort to denounce them or show that they are not the norm?

by doing nothing, that is a way of condoning the actions just the same. right or wrong, the is the outward perception not privey to information to discredit them.

Um, what radical Christian groups are running around blowing themselves up, extolling murder, and training thousands of young men to be holy warriors? Yeah, there are stricter and more conservative Christian groups out there, but I don't know of any that are terrorist groups. It's a matter of perspective here. I view people who do suicide bombings, chop heads off of prisoners, and kill their own people in great numbers as radicals. I don't consider a man who insists that abortion is murder as a radical. You might find that offensive, but it isn't a radical.

I can't help but to remember back to 9/11 and all those images that were shown of Palestinians and other "Muslims" who were cheering and celebrating the destruction of the towers (most likely a minority, but it is still a stinging reminder that there is a lot of people out there that hate us for just being us). I also can't help but remember that the Palestinians voted in a terrorist group as their leaders.

There's more going on in the world than can be defined by simple analogy. The good Muslim people out there had better start acting before things get even more out of hand. The radical groups do control more than just the hills of Afghanistan. There are enough sympathizers out there to provide them with money, shelter, food, weapons, and access to information. I think those networks will keep growing for as long as the misinformation spread by the radicals is allowed to go virtually unchallenged. It is time for the peaceful to stand up and say enough! You do not represent us. You are an abomination.

For every rant put out by Osama bin Laden, true Muslims worldwide should put out statements denouncing everything he said. Yet it seems that Al Jahzeera is only good at "finding" these Bin Laden tapes while claiming that they just report the news.

I think I am mostly convinced that Islam is not a religion of hate, but that still doesn't change the reality of the situation. The situation is still bad.