Fml

[bimmer_E30]

the only countries that deal with MPH, F b.s are the U.S and United kingdom.

[HiTheNameIsBJ]

gotta love new cars, started right up....ofcourse pluged in.

the e30 looks sad and cold parked next to it :(

electric oil pre-heater?

[mrsleeve]

electric oil pre-heater?

I would bet just factory block heaters

Block heaters only heat the coolant in the block, keeping the rest of the engine warm for easier starts . In those temps really now a days you the fuel supply is the issue, in gas powered you get condensation collection in low spots in the system and you get ice plugs to form and block the fuel system. Diesel has paraffin wax in it and that clouds up and plugs up the filter element, in winter there are additive packages that lower that temp form the refiner. No one with a diesel goes anywhere with out emergency treatments or not treating with a additive at fill up time.

Oil heaters are normally only found on Heavy Industrial equipment and trucks in EXTREME cold environments Think of the Rigs up on the North Slope in AK or the mines in Northern Canada the research base at McMurdo station in the antarctic.

Not to say lots of guys when they order shit for use in Canada, and the northern tier states that deal with bouts of arctic air dont order them.

I have had my truck (diesel) fire right up not plugged in at -36f out in WY last winter.

[CorvallisBMW]

the only countries that deal with MPH, F b.s are the U.S and United kingdom.

No, UK is/has phased it out. Just us now, though hopefully not for much longer.

[mrsleeve]

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Pipe dream

[HiTheNameIsBJ]

I would bet just factory block heaters

Block heaters only heat the coolant in the block, keeping the rest of the engine warm for easier starts . In those temps really now a days you the fuel supply is the issue, in gas powered you get condensation collection in low spots in the system and you get ice plugs to form and block the fuel system. Diesel has paraffin wax in it and that clouds up and plugs up the filter element, in winter there are additive packages that lower that temp form the refiner. No one with a diesel goes anywhere with out emergency treatments or not treating with a additive at fill up time.

Oil heaters are normally only found on Heavy Industrial equipment and trucks in EXTREME cold environments Think of the Rigs up on the North Slope in AK or the mines in Northern Canada the research base at McMurdo station in the antarctic.

Not to say lots of guys when they order shit for use in Canada, and the northern tier states that deal with bouts of arctic air dont order them.

I have had my truck (diesel) fire right up not plugged in at -36f out in WY last winter.

Yea it kind of threw me off, I've only seen them in jegs. Do they come as OE on some Canadian cars?

[CorvallisBMW]

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Pipe dream

It will have to change, there's no choice really. We can't stay on it forever. And as all the old geezers die off there will be less resistance to changing it. Every person in the US since the early 70's has been educated on the metric system in school.

[mrsleeve]

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UHHHHHHH Yeah not really.

In the mid 70's all the engineering firms for construction, tried switching to the metric system, yeah well after 30 years of long costly delays, fuck ups and do overs due to its use it was finally abandoned in 1999. I worked on the last metric engineered job in MI and was nothing more than an human calculator switching from M --> Std--> tenths and back again.

Not to say that the engineering firms dont use it in house, it will never be accepted in this country like it has in the rest of the world. WE DONT HAVE TO ADOPT IT WE ARE A SOVEREIGN NATION, AND WE CAN USE WHAT EVER METHOD WE WANT TO. We are subjects to the rest of the world, and have to use their fucked up measuring system





BJ:
Block heaters you can get as a option on nearly anything sold in the USA as far as I know still. even if you dont get one, all you have to do it order the element and find where the plug is threaded into the block. Remove plug install element and run cord out to where you can get to it easy. I rarely plug in with modern Multi weight oils and modern engines its not as big a concern as it used to be.

But most of the stuff in the those really cold place never shut anything down from about NOV to MAR they just sit and idle if not being used.

[bimmer_E30]

yah it's factory block heater, the car is a 2008.

and yah MPH FTL.

[HiTheNameIsBJ]

BJ:
Block heaters you can get as a option on nearly anything sold in the USA as far as I know still. even if you dont get one, all you have to do it order the element and find where the plug is threaded into the block. Remove plug install element and run cord out to where you can get to it easy. I rarely plug in with modern Multi weight oils and modern engines its not as big a concern as it used to be.

But most of the stuff in the those really cold place never shut anything down from about NOV to MAR they just sit and idle if not being used.

Learn something everyday. I had no idea they were that widely used.

[CorvallisBMW]

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UHHHHHHH Yeah not really.

In the mid 70's all the engineering firms for construction, tried switching to the metric system, yeah well after 30 years of long costly delays, fuck ups and do overs due to its use it was finally abandoned in 1999. I worked on the last metric engineered job in MI and was nothing more than an human calculator switching from M --> Std--> tenths and back again.

Not to say that the engineering firms dont use it in house, it will never be accepted in this country like it has in the rest of the world. WE DONT HAVE TO ADOPT IT WE ARE A SOVEREIGN NATION, AND WE CAN USE WHAT EVER METHOD WE WANT TO. We are subjects to the rest of the world, and have to use their fucked up measuring system

lulz, just keep telling yourself that :up: At the same time, maybe you can try to convince us all that the earth is the center of the universe. That theory was developed right around the same time as base measurements for our current measurement system.

BTW, nearly all engineering work outside of construction is done in SI units. Construction is very traditional and therefor has been slower to catch on to the 20th century, let alone the 21st.

[Axxe]

In Canada all engineering spec handbooks list both metric and standard, and all calcs are done in metric. Unfortunately I-beams, pipes, etc are still made to standard specs but it doesn't really matter anymore as all the conversions are there and contractors are warming up to the idea of calling it a 150mm pipe instead of 6". I'm talking civil applications of course....

[Iain]

Summer down here. Was mid/high 30degC all weekend, bright sunshine and balmy nights. Unfortunately, its back to low 20s today and rain.

^ I'm in love...

That grille piece is the bees knees.

It's stock for the countries that got the good models (ie: not US).

Can't believe Subaru didn't bring GC8 WRX/STis into America... oversight much?!

[mrsleeve]

Yeah I know, I hate dealing with it when I have work on shit thats going over seas, as I have to put so many ID points on shit that it makes it hard to read film some times Rather than location markers at 3-5-10-or 15 inch increments, its every 50mm or 100mm and makes it so there are so many places marked it can interfere with my IQI's

Unfortunately I-beams, pipes, etc are still made to standard specs but it doesn't really matter anymore as all the conversions are there and contractors are warming up to the idea of calling it a 150mm pipe instead of 6". .

[Raxe]

Not to say that the engineering firms dont use it in house, it will never be accepted in this country like it has in the rest of the world. WE DONT HAVE TO ADOPT IT WE ARE A SOVEREIGN NATION, AND WE CAN USE WHAT EVER METHOD WE WANT TO. We are subjects to the rest of the world, and have to use their fucked up measuring system

LOL @ expecting America to actually care. Nobody gives a shit about freedoms and rights, haven't you noticed this?