Obamacare is passed.....let the outrage

[mrsleeve]

You missed my point. Everyone rich poor and in the middle should have the "gold plated plan" provided free of charge. Just because I said free, that dosesnt mean it has to be sub standard.

HOW IS THAT GOING TO BE PAID FOR?????? There is no such thing as a free lunch


I work hard very hard I earn a good living (by no means "rich"), BUT the only reason I do what I do, and work as hard as I do, is because of the Heath care I get along with it. Its a incentive to help attract the best talent and keep them.

I have turned down job offers for way more money and time off, due the the shitty Heath care that is offered.

[ALYKZANDYR]

I understand that the money to fund the healthcare has to come from somewhere. Tax the shit out corporations, they got lots of money, If they can affortd to dole out excessive bonuses they can afford to pay for the healthcare system.

[Hallen]

I understand that the money to fund the healthcare has to come from somewhere. Tax the shit out corporations, they got lots of money, If they can affortd to dole out excessive bonuses they can afford to pay for the healthcare system.

Your ignorance of how things work is shameful. I blame it on public education, MTV, and too easy of a life.

Sure, tax the shit out of those evil corporations. Good idea. Lets make sure employment drops even more than it is now. Lets make sure we drive as much business out of the US as possible. Let's make things as bad as we possibly can. Then people will have to embrace government servitude.

How do you know they are excessive? Could it be that guy that got that 1 million dollar bonus also sold 100 million worth of product that year and because of that, you have a fucking job making that product? Learn a little bit about how the world works before spouting off.

[mrsleeve]

Edit: Hallen beat me to it


HOLY FUCK. Why is it that you guys always say tax the fuck outta the evil corps. or rich guys, or Big oil???????

You do relize that US corps are taxed at one of the highest rates on the planet right? This is one of the driving forces that is pushing all of our jobs and and industries over seas. The US tax rate alone makes it next to imposable to be competitive with the rest of the world.

You keep taxing those business where the fuck are we all going to work when they decide to move over seas or shut the doors or even do the same amount of work with less employees?????

I understand that the money to fund the healthcare has to come from somewhere. Tax the shit out corporations, they got lots of money, If they can affortd to dole out excessive bonuses they can afford to pay for the healthcare system.

[ALYKZANDYR]

I dont give a fuck how the "works" The way it "works" if fucked up. Dont accuse of watching MTV, I dont watch that bullshit. Look, the amount of healthcare you get shouldnt depend on how much money you have. A poor person should get the same care as a rich person would.

[ALYKZANDYR]

Edit: Hallen beat me to it


HOLY FUCK. Why is it that you guys always say tax the fuck outta the evil corps. or rich guys, or Big oil???????

You do relize that US corps are taxed at one of the highest rates on the planet right? This is one of the driving forces that is pushing all of our jobs and and industries over seas. The US tax rate makes it next to imposable to be competitive with the rest of the world.

You keep taxing those business where the fuck are we all going to work when they decide to move over seas or shut the doors or even do the same amount of work with less employees?????

They need to be taxed more. 90% of their profits should be taxed at 100%

[mrsleeve]

Well there will be no place to work here then.


SO let me get this straight. I will put it terms you may under stand. You buy a e30 that needs a head put on it and timeing service for 500 dollars. You fix the whole thing for another investment of 500 dollars for a total investment of 1000 bucks. Now you sell the car for 3000 dollars netting you 2k in profits.

WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO GIVE 1800dollars TO THE FUCKING GOVT????????? After all thats the tax rate on profit you want.

You take away all insensitive to do business there will be no business being done any more. NO gas to drive your car, no making of cars or parts, no farming to make food, no gas being shipped to heat your house, no power being generated to keep your lights on, no cell phones, no intewebz, NO FUCKING ANYTHING

Welcome to Communism man Guess what it has been tired before it dose not work


Hey dumb fuck, I am not rich, have made less than 50k a year most of my life, and ALWAYS had one of those "Evil Gold Plated insc plans" You dont have to be rich to have good health care.

You need to learn how shit works, because what you wanted may not be what you get.

The reason you have such a comfy life here in the good ol USA is because of the way the system works.

Get over your self and grow the fuck up

I dont give a fuck how the "works" The way it "works" if fucked up. Dont accuse of watching MTV, I dont watch that bullshit. Look, the amount of healthcare you get shouldnt depend on how much money you have. A poor person should get the same care as a rich person would.

[Vince30]

[Hallen]

I dont give a fuck how the "works" The way it "works" if fucked up. Dont accuse of watching MTV, I dont watch that bullshit. Look, the amount of healthcare you get shouldnt depend on how much money you have. A poor person should get the same care as a rich person would.

Ask yourself a series of questions.

1) Who is more important to you?
a) Your Mom
b) Your garbage man
2) Who is more important to you?
a) Your son
b) That bum sleeping in the gutter
3) Who is more important to you?
a) You
b) the thief who just stole your car

The point is this: people value things. We value things differently. Nothing is equal. I work hard for me and my family. I don't work hard for my garbage man. When things are "free", people don't value them and they don't value themselves and they lose the desire to excel. There's no point. Society breaks down eventually.

A "free" public system insists that I pay a large amount of my hard earned money so that all the "b" people above can have health care while my mom dies from a stroke because it took 3 months to get her in to see the doctor. That isn't right.

There is nothing really broken with our current health care. Nothing the government should be fixing with new crap. They need to get rid of some of the old crap and things will get much better. It's the government and stupid policy that is driving the problems in health care. It really isn't the insurance companies or even the drug companies that are the problem.

And taxing corporations at 100% is a sure way of making sure that our economy gets destroyed and you die a horrible death when gangs come through looking for some fresh meat to cook.

[StereoInstaller1]

That POS bill passed? They shouldve scrapped it and started the fuck over....

They DID start the fuckover...now we will all get fucked over!

[ALYKZANDYR]

Ask yourself a series of questions.

1) Who is more important to you?
a) Your Mom
b) Your garbage man
2) Who is more important to you?
a) Your son
b) That bum sleeping in the gutter
3) Who is more important to you?
a) You
b) the thief who just stole your car

The point is this: people value things. We value things differently. Nothing is equal. I work hard for me and my family. I don't work hard for my garbage man. When things are "free", people don't value them and they don't value themselves and they lose the desire to excel. There's no point. Society breaks down eventually.

A "free" public system insists that I pay a large amount of my hard earned money so that all the "b" people above can have health care while my mom dies from a stroke because it took 3 months to get her in to see the doctor. That isn't right.

There is nothing really broken with our current health care. Nothing the government should be fixing with new crap. They need to get rid of some of the old crap and things will get much better. It's the government and stupid policy that is driving the problems in health care. It really isn't the insurance companies or even the drug companies that are the problem.

And taxing corporations at 100% is a sure way of making sure that our economy gets destroyed and you die a horrible death when gangs come through looking for some fresh meat to cook.

You do make a vaild arguement. However, in the even of gangs coming through my town, We'll see about who will be doing the cooking...

[Pinepig]

HOW IS THAT GOING TO BE PAID FOR?????? There is no such thing as a free lunch

WTF is wrong with you, we'll just print more money. Fuck don't you guys know anything.:hitler:





























;)

[Pinepig]

I understand that the money to fund the healthcare has to come from somewhere. Tax the shit out corporations, they got lots of money, If they can affortd to dole out excessive bonuses they can afford to pay for the healthcare system.

^^^^^^

Voted for the zero.

[twistednut]

All of you in the know tell us how to fix this problem.
A single person who makes $9,999 and gets food stamps gets free health care but a single person who makes $10,000 a year without any other assistance has to pay full price for any medical treatment she may need.

[mrsleeve]

You do make a vaild point. However, in the even of gangs coming through my town, We'll see about who will be doing the cooking...

I give you detroit.

Your in MI man. Its not that far off in that state. I know, born and raised, moved out in late 07 and ran like the wind will never ever ever go back other than to visit family