Minority Report, Not just a movie anymore

[mrsleeve]

Dont get fired from work then, go legally buy a few guns. This guy is about to be very very well off after this.

Has all his firearms confiscated (will prolly never get them back or compensated for them) gets a psyc evaluation and NO CHARGES. UMMMM

http://www.mailtribune.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20100309/NEWS/3090315

March 09, 2010
Anita Burke
By Anita Burke
Mail Tribune

Concerns about an Oregon Department of Transportation employee who purchased several guns after being placed on leave prompted law enforcement across Southern Oregon to step in.

Negotiators and a SWAT team from Medford police safely took a man — whose name wasn't released — into protective custody Monday morning in the 500 block of Effie Street, Medford police said in a news release.

He was taken to Rogue Valley Medical Center for a mental-health evaluation.

The man recently had been placed on administrative leave from his job and was "very disgruntled," the news release said.

ODOT Communications Director Patrick Cooney said there were administrative, personnel matters involved that limited what the department could discuss.

However, the state agency had reported concerns about the man to law enforcement agencies, who started monitoring him, officials said.

"We had concerning information regarding a personnel issue and were watching the subject," Jackson County Sheriff Mike Winters said.

In two days, the man bought a Heckler & Koch .45-caliber universal self-loading handgun, a Walther .380-caliber handgun and an AK-47 assault rifle, Medford police Lt. Bob Hansen said. All of those firearms were purchased legally, with required record checks by the Oregon State Police.

Authorities were "extremely concerned" that the man may have been planning to retaliate against his employers, the news release said.

"Instead of being reactive, we took a proactive approach," OSP Sgt. Jeff Proulx said.

Douglas and Jackson County sheriff's departments, OSP officers based in both counties and police in Medford and Roseburg collaborated, he said.

Medford police watched the man's home overnight, starting at about 9 p.m. Sunday, Hansen said.

Because he was known to have weapons, police wanted to defuse the situation and ensure the man wasn't a danger to himself or others before the neighborhood awakened and people started their daily activities, Hansen said.

Medford's hostage negotiators and SWAT team were called in at 3 a.m. Monday and arrived on the scene at about 5:45 a.m., he said.

About a dozen officers responded. They closed the street for about an hour and evacuated three homes to protect neighbors and prevent bystanders from gathering, he said.

After a phone conversation with negotiators, the man — who was alone in the home — agreed to come out, Hansen said.

Police seized the recently purchased firearms, as well as another .45-caliber Heckler & Koch handgun and a 12-gauge shotgun. Police are holding the weapons for safekeeping, but no criminal charges have been filed.

[Ryan Stewart]

Before you go all 1984 on us why not wait till the investigation is to the point where they will tell us what prompted them to monitor him. They were watching the guy long before he bought the guns. Its not like there is some national database that tracks who lost their job and bought guns afterward.

This guy likely said something that scared the everloving shit out of people and that is why they called the cops.

[stumble_t]

"Instead of being reactive, we took a proactive approach,"

Welcome to the New Era...

[mrsleeve]

Before you go all 1984 on us why not wait till the investigation is to the point where they will tell us what prompted them to monitor him. They were watching the guy long before he bought the guns. Its not like there is some national database that tracks who lost their job and bought guns afterward.

This guy likely said something that scared the everloving shit out of people and that is why they called the cops.

Ryan man its all in the article

"The man recently had been placed on administrative leave from his job"

"However, the state agency had reported concerns about the man to law enforcement agencies, who started monitoring him, officials said."

So his boss that laid him called the cops to say ("RECENTLY" not watching him long before) that he may be a little weird and is mad he lost his job you better watch him.

Umm no threats, hes a up standing citizen with no felonies and decided to buy a couple more guns to enjoy on his new found abundance of spare time. That allows the cops to violate his 4th amendment rights,a hold him with no charges filed ????? give me a break.

[Raxe]

Ryan man its all in the article

"The man recently had been placed on administrative leave from his job"

"However, the state agency had reported concerns about the man to law enforcement agencies, who started monitoring him, officials said."

So his boss that laid him called the cops to say ("RECENTLY" not watching him long before) that he may be a little weird and is mad he lost his job you better watch him.

Umm no threats, hes a up standing citizen with no felonies and decided to buy a couple more guns to enjoy on his new found abundance of spare time. That allows the cops to violate his 4th amendment rights,a hold him with no charges filed ????? give me a break.

Are you dumb? Or just refusing to believe what's clearly stated and, in fact, what you precisely quoted? They said he had been reported by his previous employer out of concern. First off, they did not say when the state agency had reported the concerns. Could have been weeks before, could have been hours before. Could very well be the reason he was laid off in the first place. The article then states that authorities began monitoring him. Again, not stated is whether or not he had already been laid off by this point.

Secondly, "concerning information regarding a personnel issue" does not, in any way, mean "no threats." In fact it very likely means the opposite.

Use some common sense and put out your fuse for a second. A man is laid off, is disgruntled and clearly not happy about the issue and possibly has a history (we do not know how long he has been monitored for). He goes out two days later and purchases several firearms. Does this sound like a perfectly normal thing for someone to do?

It's called inductive reasoning, and it saves lives.

"Instead of being reactive, we took a proactive approach,"

Welcome to the New Era...

Reactive era.

[Ryan Stewart]

Of course I can fucking read, cant you?

ODOT Communications Director Patrick Cooney said there were administrative, personnel matters involved that limited what the department could discuss.

However, the state agency had reported concerns about the man to law enforcement agencies, who started monitoring him, officials said.

Nowhere does it say no threats. In fact, it says some issue is preventing them from discussing the matter. That typically means something of a criminal nature as they would prefer you do not diclose details on a pending investigation.

The cops were called, they did their job. Nothing more until proven otherwise.

[aaron325ix]

just think if they could have done that to that bitch professor in Alabama...
Oh yea, then everyone would be bitching that her civil liberties were violated.