In other news.... Japan sinks deep into the ocean

[mrsleeve]

i did a report and then debates in 7th grade about which place to live was the most dangerous.

I had papua new guinea and we barely defeated japan in the semi finals... looks like that was an upset and japan is the most dangerous as of 2011.

the real answer is the DRC or Somalia

[Sensimillatech]

Aparently, there are some U.S. citizens that believe that this disaster was deserved because of Pearl Harbor....Sometimes it's just embarrassing to be American.

Wooooooooooooowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww. And yeah, people hate American's I hear shit all the time from english, south african, and a few others that I work with.... All I can do is say "well that's interesting" and move on.

The events in japan is scary & got me paranoid, living in San Diego. Nuclear reactor 30 minutes north... San Andreas fault 40 minutes east... Ocean 20 miles west.

Japan is remianing calm, no looting. Disciplined and not causing matters to be worse. imagine this in the United States, like Hurricane Katrina. Looting and violence.

The power plant just north of SD only is prepaired for a 7.0 earthquake. You would think plants would be prepared for a larger quake, since socal gets earth quakes frequently.

[IminDiegoTriick]

Im not too worried about the 7.0 quakes but the actual unusual disassters like an 8.9 earthquake. and tsunamis. the events that we arent prepared for. Japan was MORE than ready for an earthquake in the event it happened.. but look now..

[myinfernalbmw]

radioactive snow is next on the list of natural phenomena. godzilla may very well be the only remaining plausible disaster

[Redfox]

My friend was actually supposed to be sent off to Japan, but after the nuclear reactors blew, they completely avoided sending the boys over there. I'm curious to see how this will effect their health and way of living with all the damage and radiation over the next few years. Though Pearl Harbor was a horrible thing, no one deserves this.

[Adrian_Visser]

Let's do a little comparison here:

Pearl Harbour death toll 2350, including 68 civilians, and 1178 injured

Hiroshima death toll: ~150,000 civilians

Nagasaki death toll: ~75,000 civilians

Those are conservative estimates and only count those who died from the blast not the countless others who died agonizing deaths from radiation poisoning and cancer.


So say a ten to one rate of casualties between the two, and all Americans remember is that the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbour.

[myinfernalbmw]

^^^Proof that plenty of Americans are blissfully ignorant to their own stupidity.

edit: Just because you're canadian, and you syrup guzzling fucks don't speak proper english, does not mean its Pearl "Harbour" :D I only kid my brother from the greater white north.

[Mtriple]

The whales are saying, "Lets have sushi tonight!" Tell me different!

:rofl: too soon?

[tjts1]

The people trying to call payback for the events of our grandparents generation are... I don't even know the right word. I hope the people of Japan can catch a break and get all the help they need.

[Fusion]

Seems the education system has done a "great job".
Do kids still learn the 50 states song?

[mrsleeve]

^^^^^^^^^^^^

Dont even get me started on that. Its in a sorry state and to say its serving a agenda is a taboo but really the writing is on the wall for that one too. but thats for a totally different thread.

Let's do a little comparison here:

Pearl Harbour death toll 2350, including 68 civilians, and 1178 injured

Hiroshima death toll: ~150,000 civilians

Nagasaki death toll: ~75,000 civilians

Those are conservative estimates and only count those who died from the blast not the countless others who died agonizing deaths from radiation poisoning and cancer.


So say a ten to one rate of casualties between the two, and all Americans remember is that the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbour.

yes and how many millions more would have been killed both Allied service men and Japanese civilians fighting to the last man/woman/child with pitch forks and sharpened sticks, if a conventional campaign was waged to bring japan to submission?????

Yes it was tragic situation and a shitty decision to have to make and carry out. But in the long run it saved more lives than it ended 10 fold.


We remember Pearl because of its significance, of being the only time the US has been attacked on it own soil in modern history and since the war of 1812, (an up untill 9/11/2001). Its a very very important day in both our history and world history. I totally agree that to say the Japanese deserved it or to not feel any compassion for their position thanks to a natural disaster because of Pearl is just a sorry excuse for a human being and a American

[IminDiegoTriick]

I agree mister sleeve.
But people put everything in the wrong context... and contradict your correct statement with stupidity

[CorvallisBMW]

Let's do a little comparison here:

Pearl Harbour death toll 2350, including 68 civilians, and 1178 injured

Hiroshima death toll: ~150,000 civilians

Nagasaki death toll: ~75,000 civilians

Those are conservative estimates and only count those who died from the blast not the countless others who died agonizing deaths from radiation poisoning and cancer.


So say a ten to one rate of casualties between the two, and all Americans remember is that the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbour.

Don't forget the firebombing of Tokyo on several occasions, well over +1 Million dead.

Pearl harbor sucks, don't get me wrong. But that was an attack on a strategic military target. As far as war goes that's legit. Intentionally targeting population centers is a whole different thing.

Sleeve is right though; the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, while terrible, no doubt saved many more lives on both sides than would have been lost during a full-fledged invasion.

[deutschman]

Let's do a little comparison here:

Pearl Harbour death toll 2350, including 68 civilians, and 1178 injured

Hiroshima death toll: ~150,000 civilians

Nagasaki death toll: ~75,000 civilians

Those are conservative estimates and only count those who died from the blast not the countless others who died agonizing deaths from radiation poisoning and cancer.


So say a ten to one rate of casualties between the two, and all Americans remember is that the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbour.

This.

If you really believe in the "eye for an eye" thing then i think they already got what was coming to them.

^^^^^^^^^^^^

Dont even get me started on that. Its in a sorry state and to say its serving a agenda is a taboo but really the writing is on the wall for that one too. but thats for a totally different thread.





yes and how many millions more would have been killed both Allied service men and Japanese civilians fighting to the last man/woman/child with pitch forks and sharpened sticks, if a conventional campaign was waged to bring japan to submission?????

Yes it was tragic situation and a shitty decision to have to make and carry out. But in the long run it saved more lives than it ended 10 fold.


We remember Pearl because of its significance, of being the only time the US has been attacked on it own soil in modern history and since the war of 1812, (an up untill 9/11/2001). Its a very very important day in both our history and world history. I totally agree that to say the Japanese deserved it or to not feel any compassion for their position thanks to a natural disaster because of Pearl is just a sorry excuse for a human being and a American

I do not think he was trying to make the point that a invasion would have been better then a bombing, or that the bombing of Japan was unwarranted or a bad idea. I think he was just trying to point out that they may have already gotten their "just desserts."

Pearl was also the main resin America even took part in WWII. If the Japs (;)) had not bombed Pearl we may have just kepted sending aid, but never sent actual forces to help our allies.

[mrsleeve]

Don't forget the firebombing of Tokyo on several occasions, well over +1 Million dead.

Pearl harbor sucks, don't get me wrong. But that was an attack on a strategic military target. As far as war goes, that's legit. Intentionally targeting population centers is a whole different thing.

Sleeve is right though, the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, while terrible, no doubt saved many more lives on both sides than would have been lost during a full-fledged invasion.

Yes strategic targets are legit, but unfortunately to actually WIN a war you have to break the will of the Civilians and force them into submission as well. This is why we (Allies) have not decisively WON a war or conflict since japan surrendered on the deck of Missouri under the shadows of her main battery. This kinder and gentler warfare is a lose lose proposition.


Sorry for the OT here. But YES the Japanese paid their dues 100 fold for poking the US bear at Pearl. This is why to this day no nation dare fuck with the US, unfortunately thats changing