Blog about Ungrateful Katrina survivors

[lowslowe30]

"We, as Americans, owe these people an appology".............. I just about lost it!

Sorry for the hurricane we all made as a collaberation of the labs in our basement oprah. I'm canadian so I'm not gonna pretend I honestly know whats going on because the media twists it so badly, but it seems as people are using this hurricane and a bunch of coincedences to bring back claims of racism. Like I said before I don't know exactly whats going on, but I'm pretty sure the U.S. and Canada alike are fairly tolerant nations of different cultures and people need to stop demending special treatment because they are a minority. I mean for fucks sake I'm sure that there are as many black, asian, spanish etc. as "white" people. If people stopped crying racism everytime something bad happened to them I'm sure it would be all but eliminated entirely. Now all they are doing is giving people a reason to stereotype them. I don't know why I bothered writing this, but I just wanted to share a point of veiw. I hope for americas sake this gets sorted out sooner than later because it doesn't deserve to get a bad reputation for this.

[Charlie]

http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2005/9/6/34041/87727

-Charlie

[Jarvis]

http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2005/9/6/34041/87727

-Charlie

AWESOME.

"Finally, your body cannot take any more. You fall down with your pants full of shit and hallucinating from the lack of water. At least one-hundred people pass by your body on the road before you finally die.

THE END"

[ProBimmer]

"We, as Americans, owe these people an appology".............. I just about lost it!

Sorry for the hurricane we all made as a collaberation of the labs in our basement oprah. I'm canadian so I'm not gonna pretend I honestly know whats going on because the media twists it so badly, but it seems as people are using this hurricane and a bunch of coincedences to bring back claims of racism. Like I said before I don't know exactly whats going on, but I'm pretty sure the U.S. and Canada alike are fairly tolerant nations of different cultures and people need to stop demending special treatment because they are a minority. I mean for fucks sake I'm sure that there are as many black, asian, spanish etc. as "white" people. If people stopped crying racism everytime something bad happened to them I'm sure it would be all but eliminated entirely. Now all they are doing is giving people a reason to stereotype them. I don't know why I bothered writing this, but I just wanted to share a point of veiw. I hope for americas sake this gets sorted out sooner than later because it doesn't deserve to get a bad reputation for this.

according to them, it was the white people who made a deal with God to make this natural disaster. at least that's how they're making it out. But you're right, we did have Canadian help.

[Rob]

oh, I thought it was Bush's fault?

[Charlie]

"We, as Americans, owe these people an appology".............. I just about lost it!

Sorry for the hurricane we all made as a collaberation of the labs in our basement oprah. I'm canadian so I'm not gonna pretend I honestly know whats going on because the media twists it so badly, but it seems as people are using this hurricane and a bunch of coincedences to bring back claims of racism. Like I said before I don't know exactly whats going on, but I'm pretty sure the U.S. and Canada alike are fairly tolerant nations of different cultures and people need to stop demending special treatment because they are a minority. I mean for fucks sake I'm sure that there are as many black, asian, spanish etc. as "white" people. If people stopped crying racism everytime something bad happened to them I'm sure it would be all but eliminated entirely. Now all they are doing is giving people a reason to stereotype them. I don't know why I bothered writing this, but I just wanted to share a point of veiw. I hope for americas sake this gets sorted out sooner than later because it doesn't deserve to get a bad reputation for this.

according to them, it was the white people who made a deal with God to make this natural disaster. at least that's how they're making it out. But you're right, we did have Canadian help.

It's Bush's fault, even though he doesn't care about the black people.

Thank you Kanye.

-Charlie

[vnv01]

I can't wait till the next natural disaster happens

in the midwest.. or West Virginia...

I'll have my popcorn warmed and ready.

[uflnuceng]

the first day, a man had his car parked unloading donations, and someone hopped in it and drove away. its freakin horseshit.

Please god tell me that is a joke...

I may be to blame for this... I actually thought it would be a good thing if N.O. was wiped off the face of the earth as when I was there last it was a cesspool.

I wish Katrina had done a better job or just hadn't hit N.O. at all.

[golde30]

hahaha... someone needs to show that to that rapper who was flipping shit...

Kanye (and anyone else) still has the right to be angry at America. These people were destined to become poor and homeless, the society is just plain setup that way. All of the white people could afford to just pack up and head to the nearest Four Seasons, while all of the black citizens were stuck on the street. Are you guys all seriously trying to tell me there isn't some sort of sick connection between the victims all being black and the state of social injustice in America?

If they wouldn't spend all their money getting their fix and buying FAWDIES... there wouldn't be a problem.

Seriously. The whites that didn't get out were all drug addicts too.

Seriously, half the people in the astrodome right now are twitching and screaming about needing to get their fix.

Are you claiming that the reason the vast number of black people "need a fix" or "buy fawdies" is heridetary, or somehow genetical?

This is a social problem, with roots much further back than you are imagining. People don't want to become drug addicts, despite what you're getting at. They are brought into the lifestyle by the prejuduces and stereotypes placed against them from birth. You are already tagging them all as drains on society, from the day the open their eyes. I get harassed by police on the street, searched at the border, pulled over every month without reason, and eyed down curiously at the bank because I am not white. I have many friends and colleagues that experience the same torture, and many fall into the trap of "well if they think I'm a crook, I may as well be one". Teachers don't expect anything from us, I know I've heard the "why don't you try and play basketball?" insult from a few. Now I've made my way to the best university in Canada working against the grain, and all I can do is watch my old friends that were once honest people fall into what society expects them to be: criminals, drug dealers, woman abusers, and single parents.

But once again, it wasn't your choice to stereotype us and shatter our self-confidence. No, it was your parents and society before you. This issue has been around since confederation and is as strong as ever today, America is racist and will stay that way for as long as it can.

society did this, that, whatever... my parent didnt do that, my parent are immigrants, who came here with jack shit, worked 4 jobs, never went on vacations, and came up on their own drive and ambition. i never feel sorry for ppl who use excuses to explain their situation. and i cant feel sorry for ppl who have been in this country for generations upon generations, and still havent gotten their act together. and its not just black ppl, theirs tons of poor ignorant lazy white ppl in this country also.

[rwh11385]

by Robert Tracinski

It took four long days for state and federal officials to figure out how to deal with the disaster in New Orleans. I can't blame them, because it also took me four long days to figure out what was going on there. The reason is that the events there make no sense if you think that we are confronting a natural disaster.

If this is just a natural disaster, the response for public officials is obvious: you bring in food, water, and doctors; you send transportation to evacuate refugees to temporary shelters; you send engineers to stop the flooding and rebuild the city's infrastructure. For journalists, natural disasters also have a familiar pattern: the heroism of ordinary people pulling together to survive; the hard work and dedication of doctors, nurses, and rescue workers; the steps being taken to clean up and rebuild.

Public officials did not expect that the first thing they would have to do is to send thousands of armed troops in armored vehicle, as if they are suppressing an enemy insurgency. And journalists—myself included—did not expect that the story would not be about rain, wind, and flooding, but about rape, murder, and looting.

But this is not a natural disaster. It is a man-made disaster.

The man-made disaster is not an inadequate or incompetent response by federal relief agencies, and it was not directly caused by Hurricane Katrina. This is where just about every newspaper and television channel has gotten the story wrong.

The man-made disaster we are now witnessing in New Orleans did not happen over four days last week. It happened over the past four decades. Hurricane Katrina merely exposed it to public view.

The man-made disaster is the welfare state.

For the past few days, I have found the news from New Orleans to be confusing. People were not behaving as you would expect them to behave in an emergency—indeed, they were not behaving as they have behaved in other emergencies. That is what has shocked so many people: they have been saying that this is not what we expect from America. In fact, it is not even what we expect from a Third World country.

When confronted with a disaster, people usually rise to the occasion. They work together to rescue people in danger, and they spontaneously organize to keep order and solve problems. This is especially true in America. We are an enterprising people, used to relying on our own initiative rather than waiting around for the government to take care of us. I have seen this a hundred times, in small examples (a small town whose main traffic light had gone out, causing ordinary citizens to get out of their cars and serve as impromptu traffic cops, directing cars through the intersection) and large ones (the spontaneous response of New Yorkers to September 11).

So what explains the chaos in New Orleans?

To give you an idea of the magnitude of what is going on, here is a description from a Washington Times story:

"Storm victims are raped and beaten; fights erupt with flying fists, knives and guns; fires are breaking out; corpses litter the streets; and police and rescue helicopters are repeatedly fired on.

"The plea from Mayor C. Ray Nagin came even as National Guardsmen poured in to restore order and stop the looting, carjackings and gunfire....

"Last night, Gov. Kathleen Babineaux Blanco said 300 Iraq-hardened Arkansas National Guard members were inside New Orleans with shoot-to-kill orders.

" 'These troops are...under my orders to restore order in the streets,' she said. 'They have M-16s, and they are locked and loaded. These troops know how to shoot and kill and they are more than willing to do so if necessary and I expect they will.' "

The reference to Iraq is eerie. The photo that accompanies this article shows a SWAT team with rifles and armored vests riding on an armored vehicle through trash-strewn streets lined by a rabble of squalid, listless people, one of whom appears to be yelling at them. It looks exactly like a scene from Sadr City in Baghdad.

What explains bands of thugs using a natural disaster as an excuse for an orgy of looting, armed robbery, and rape? What causes unruly mobs to storm the very buses that have arrived to evacuate them, causing the drivers to speed away, frightened for their lives? What causes people to attack the doctors trying to treat patients at the Superdome?

Why are people responding to natural destruction by causing further destruction? Why are they attacking the people who are trying to help them?

My wife, Sherri, figured it out first, and she figured it out on a sense-of-life level. While watching the coverage one night on Fox News Channel, she told me that she was getting a familiar feeling. She studied architecture at the Illinois Institute of Technology, which is located in the South Side of Chicago just blocks away from the Robert Taylor Homes, one of the largest high-rise public housing projects in America. "The projects," as they were known, were infamous for uncontrollable crime and irremediable squalor. (They have since, mercifully, been demolished.)

What Sherri was getting from last night's television coverage was a whiff of the sense of life of "the projects." Then the "crawl"—the informational phrases flashed at the bottom of the screen on most news channels—gave some vital statistics to confirm this sense: 75% of the residents of New Orleans had already evacuated before the hurricane, and of those who remained, a large number were from the city's public housing projects. Jack Wakeland then told me that early reports from CNN and Fox indicated that the city had no plan for evacuating all of the prisoners in the city's jails—so they just let many of them loose. [Update: I have been searching for news reports on this last story, but I have not been able to confirm it. Instead, I have found numerous reports about the collapse of the corrupt and incompetent New Orleans Police Department; see here and here.]

There is no doubt a significant overlap between these two populations--that is, a large number of people in the jails used to live in the housing projects, and vice versa.

There were many decent, innocent people trapped in New Orleans when the deluge hit—but they were trapped alongside large numbers of people from two groups: criminals—and wards of the welfare state, people selected, over decades, for their lack of initiative and self-induced helplessness. The welfare wards were a mass of sheep—on whom the incompetent administration of New Orleans unleashed a pack of wolves.

All of this is related, incidentally, to the incompetence of the city government, which failed to plan for a total evacuation of the city, despite the knowledge that this might be necessary. In a city corrupted by the welfare state, the job of city officials is to ensure the flow of handouts to welfare recipients and patronage to political supporters—not to ensure a lawful, orderly evacuation in case of emergency.

No one has really reported this story, as far as I can tell. In fact, some are already actively distorting it, blaming President Bush, for example, for failing to personally ensure that the Mayor of New Orleans had drafted an adequate evacuation plan. The worst example is an execrable piece from the Toronto Globe and Mail, by a supercilious Canadian who blames the chaos on American "individualism." But the truth is precisely the opposite: the chaos was caused by a system that was the exact opposite of individualism.

What Hurricane Katrina exposed was the psychological consequences of the welfare state. What we consider "normal" behavior in an emergency is behavior that is normal for people who have values and take the responsibility to pursue and protect them. People with values respond to a disaster by fighting against it and doing whatever it takes to overcome the difficulties they face. They don't sit around and complain that the government hasn't taken care of them. And they don't use the chaos of a disaster as an opportunity to prey on their fellow men.

But what about criminals and welfare parasites? Do they worry about saving their houses and property? They don't, because they don't own anything. Do they worry about what is going to happen to their businesses or how they are going to make a living? They never worried about those things before. Do they worry about crime and looting? But living off of stolen wealth is a way of life for them.

People living in piles of their own trash, while petulantly complaining that other people aren't doing enough to take care of them and then shooting at those who come to rescue them—this is not just a description of the chaos at the Superdome. It is a perfect summary of the 40-year history of the welfare state and its public housing projects.

The welfare state—and the brutish, uncivilized mentality it sustains and encourages—is the man-made disaster that explains the moral ugliness that has swamped New Orleans. And that is the story that no one is reporting.

Source: TIA Daily -- September 2, 2005

[vnv01]

One more for the pile..

I tend not to take too seriously diatribes on the welfare state, from people who've never personally known anyone on welfare.

Nice, trite generalization there, pallie...

Leave the commentary to Limbaugh please, at least he does it with the circus flair that we can find entertaining..

[joshh]

hahaha... someone needs to show that to that rapper who was flipping shit...

Kanye (and anyone else) still has the right to be angry at America. These people were destined to become poor and homeless, the society is just plain setup that way. All of the white people could afford to just pack up and head to the nearest Four Seasons, while all of the black citizens were stuck on the street. Are you guys all seriously trying to tell me there isn't some sort of sick connection between the victims all being black and the state of social injustice in America?

If they wouldn't spend all their money getting their fix and buying FAWDIES... there wouldn't be a problem.

Seriously. The whites that didn't get out were all drug addicts too.

Seriously, half the people in the astrodome right now are twitching and screaming about needing to get their fix.

Are you claiming that the reason the vast number of black people "need a fix" or "buy fawdies" is heridetary, or somehow genetical?

This is a social problem, with roots much further back than you are imagining. People don't want to become drug addicts, despite what you're getting at. They are brought into the lifestyle by the prejuduces and stereotypes placed against them from birth. You are already tagging them all as drains on society, from the day the open their eyes. I get harassed by police on the street, searched at the border, pulled over every month without reason, and eyed down curiously at the bank because I am not white. I have many friends and colleagues that experience the same torture, and many fall into the trap of "well if they think I'm a crook, I may as well be one". Teachers don't expect anything from us, I know I've heard the "why don't you try and play basketball?" insult from a few. Now I've made my way to the best university in Canada working against the grain, and all I can do is watch my old friends that were once honest people fall into what society expects them to be: criminals, drug dealers, woman abusers, and single parents.

But once again, it wasn't your choice to stereotype us and shatter our self-confidence. No, it was your parents and society before you. This issue has been around since confederation and is as strong as ever today, America is racist and will stay that way for as long as it can.

Do you have any idea of what it's like to be a white guy on an all black football team??? I have never heard so many white remarks and tear downs from a race that points the finger at whites so badly. And here you are trying to make it look like ALL white people wrong you and your way of life.
It does not matter what color you are these days you get racism, yes even us "white" people. Thats the way it is. But if you want to be something in life all it takes is hard work and the will to not be ignorant. Get off the "whites wronged my race so I'm going to stick it to them" twisted thought pattern.

Criminals are criminals no matter their color.

I saw this coming from those type of people in NO. I wouldn't put any one of them up unless I knew the person was going to work around my house while I have them staying here.

[Mystikal]

Do you have any idea of what it's like to be a white guy on an all black football team??? I have never heard so many white remarks and tear downs from a race that points the finger at whites so badly. And here you are trying to make it look like ALL white people wrong you and your way of life.

You get a hard time on a football team, I get a hard time walking to the store. Or driving to work. Or sitting in McDonald's.

Fair enough.

[joshh]

Yeah, I feel sorry for you now. :roll:
The point is (and this goes for any race), any time you have reverse racism, your going to create more racism.
Unfortunately there is a reason for stereo types, because A LOT of the time it's true.
If I'm in a bad black (mostly) area, you better believe I lock my doors and keep my eyes open. Does that make me a racist? I do the same in fellony flats (a bad white area).

[robert325is]

the first day, a man had his car parked unloading donations, and someone hopped in it and drove away. its freakin horseshit.

Please god tell me that is a joke...

I may be to blame for this... I actually thought it would be a good thing if N.O. was wiped off the face of the earth as when I was there last it was a cesspool.

I wish Katrina had done a better job or just hadn't hit N.O. at all.

Not a joke....

A couple days ago, another guy stole a car, robbed a store then drove back to the dome. They coulnd't find him b/c "they all looked the same."