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    #16
    Originally posted by Stanley Rockafella View Post
    I swear, give em another 10 years TOPS and Volvo will be in the same boat
    Another 10 years? You mean 10 years ago? That's when they got bought by ford. I wish they were still owned by themselves.
    IMO the real volvos ended when they went FWD.
    Volvo 240 == win.
    Zinno '89 <24v swap in progress>

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      #17
      Volvo is owned by Geely, which is supported by the Chinese government. They ain't goin' nowhere.
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      -Sean : 91 Calypso 325i : Castro Motorsports SoCal Spec E30 #33

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        #18
        RIP Saab. I have always intended to own one...
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          #19
          The only Saab I ever liked was the 99 Turbo. Good looking car.

          Other than that no care

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            #20
            Never been a big fan of saab, so basically I'm more upset about Pontiac and oldsmobile.
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              #21
              Don't talk shit on RWD Volvo.
              ///Z

              1988 BMW 325 Super Eta - Elsa

              "i"CONVERSIONWARchip&3.0MAF3.73LSDBBSRSsSMILIES"is"SPOILER+LIPHOUNDSTOOTHSHORTSHIFTERPLASTICBUMPERCONVERSIONEtc.



              Sell Me Your SCHWARZ FENDERS!

              Originally posted by chadthestampede
              ^ Nothing you post makes any sense.

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                #22
                Saabs and Volvos are complete shit. Older Volvos not so bad, all Saabs are pieces of shit. work on one and then tell me otherwise. They were a miserable abomination of a vehicle. The swedes should stick to making konneggggssigggggsss and hot blondes.
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                  #23
                  Learn more about Competition Model: Blue-Plate 1970 Saab 96 on Bring a Trailer, the home of the best vintage and classic cars online.


                  Fun and you know it... parts are just unavailable generally

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by slammin.e28guy View Post
                    Parts are impossible to get for them. I work in parts. When it takes the dealer 10 days to get spark plugs in for a mid 2000's SAAB, then there is a problem.

                    that's complete bullshit... my father's a saab mechanic and we order parts for the every single day... parts are just as available as for any car. as far as working on them, if you dont know wtf your doing, yea it maybe hard. but if you do... its quite a simple car to work on.

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by gkobez View Post
                      Saabs and Volvo's are complete shit.
                      Uhh..no. Any Volvo Pre-Ford was an absolutely wonderful car. Safe, built tough, easy to work on, and easily go-fast modifiable. I'll die swearing by the Volvo 240.

                      Newer Volvo's on the other hand are complete pieces of shit.
                      I feel nothing but sorry for my parents who's money is getting eaten up by their 2002 Volvo V70XC. My dad bought that shit brand new for $48k, and our whole family (temp living in Sweden at the time) to the factory, drove it around Europe, and shipped it back to California.

                      Car was cool for the first few years, but turned out to be a huge pile. Volvo completely screwed all owners over with faulty transmissions, which were ALL defective from the factory. Cost my dad $6k, and in the last few years, my dad has spent over $10k on service bills for that piece of shit. I swear to god, that car was the reason for many missed family vacations.

                      Just this afternoon, I went up to the trails in the hills, and the god damn thing had my ass scared that the transmission was going to give up AGAIN (brought back memories from my soph. year in high school when it blew up on me while driving up a steep 2-way alongside a cliff).

                      I really wish my parents had just bought a BMW touring or an Outback at the time.

                      There are hundreds (accounted for) and probably thousands of owners in the United States that have had to suffer the consequences of Ford cutting-corners with the build quality of their S60/V70s with the Aisin "Geartronic" transmission.

                      ...and NOW, with Volvo in the hand of the Chinese, who gives a fuck. They're dead to me.

                      #sorry for the rant, just pissed off at a ten year old pile that has cost my family tens of thousands in unnecessary costs.

                      1991 BMW 318i (Old Shell RIP, Now Being Re-shelled & Reborn)
                      1983 Peugeot 505 STI
                      1992 Volvo 240 Wagon
                      2009 Toyota 4Runner SR5 Sport 4WD

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                        #26
                        From a driver's perspective late model classic 900 Turbos are akin to e30s in many ways. Having owned both my only complaints about the SAABs would be transmission woes and self destructing interiors. The late 16vT engine is WAY stronger/more reliable than BMW's 4 cyl. offering during the same time period and also offered better crank hp/tq numbers than BMW's six.

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                          #27
                          I have always loved the 9-3 Viggen. I would rock on in a heartbeat.

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                            #28
                            Originally posted by Janderson View Post
                            I have always loved the 9-3 Viggen. I would rock on in a heartbeat.

                            +11111111. Saw one in Berkeley the night I got back, looked sooo fucking cherry.

                            1991 BMW 318i (Old Shell RIP, Now Being Re-shelled & Reborn)
                            1983 Peugeot 505 STI
                            1992 Volvo 240 Wagon
                            2009 Toyota 4Runner SR5 Sport 4WD

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                              #29
                              ^Sorry guys, GM garbage.

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by freeride53 View Post
                                Uhh..no. Any Volvo Pre-Ford was an absolutely wonderful car. Safe, built tough, easy to work on, and easily go-fast modifiable. I'll die swearing by the Volvo 240.

                                Newer Volvo's on the other hand are complete pieces of shit.
                                I feel nothing but sorry for my parents who's money is getting eaten up by their 2002 Volvo V70XC. My dad bought that shit brand new for $48k, and our whole family (temp living in Sweden at the time) to the factory, drove it around Europe, and shipped it back to California.

                                Car was cool for the first few years, but turned out to be a huge pile. Volvo completely screwed all owners over with faulty transmissions, which were ALL defective from the factory. Cost my dad $6k, and in the last few years, my dad has spent over $10k on service bills for that piece of shit. I swear to god, that car was the reason for many missed family vacations.

                                Just this afternoon, I went up to the trails in the hills, and the god damn thing had my ass scared that the transmission was going to give up AGAIN (brought back memories from my soph. year in high school when it blew up on me while driving up a steep 2-way alongside a cliff).

                                I really wish my parents had just bought a BMW touring or an Outback at the time.

                                There are hundreds (accounted for) and probably thousands of owners in the United States that have had to suffer the consequences of Ford cutting-corners with the build quality of their S60/V70s with the Aisin "Geartronic" transmission.

                                ...and NOW, with Volvo in the hand of the Chinese, who gives a fuck. They're dead to me.

                                #sorry for the rant, just pissed off at a ten year old pile that has cost my family tens of thousands in unnecessary costs.

                                Volvo only got funding from Ford under their ownership, nothing from Ford was put into Volvo's to make them worse than they already were.

                                Do your homework son
                                If it's got tits or tires, it's gonna cost ya!

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