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    Cliffs; 14yr boy walking home with friend, police stop them for suspicious behavior, 14 yr old runs while friend doesn't, police chase, kid pulls out gun (unknown if pointed at police or not). Police shoots him once, kid dies at hospital.


    This was in my old neighborhood and believe me Westborough is the furthest thing from "the streets" It is a super quiet area with well off families (not like super rich but well off). This kid is walking around at 14yrs old with a gun and runs from police.

    I think the parents are fully to be blamed. If you dont know your kid has a gun in your house you aren't a good parent.

    Whats even more annoying are the comments by other idiot kids in the article. Whatever the situation, 14 yr old kids don't need guns nor do they need to be running from police. Especially in Westborough.

    A South San Francisco police officer shot and killed a 15-year-old boy after the teenager pulled a gun while being chased, authorities said Wednesday.

    The incident began when an officer tried to stop Derrick Gaines of San Bruno in the parking lot of an Arco gas station at 2300 Westborough Blvd. about 9 p.m. Tuesday, police said. The boy was walking with another teenager.

    The officer stopped the youths because they were "engaging in suspicious behavior," police spokesman Capt. Mike Brosnan said at a news conference, without elaborating.

    Derrick ran and led the officer on a short chase, police said. As the officer caught up to him, the youth pulled out a gun, prompting the officer to shoot him once, authorities said. Brosnan would not say whether Derrick had pointed the gun at the officer.

    The teenager was taken to San Francisco General Hospital, where he died.

    Brosnan said Derrick was known to South San Francisco police but would not give details. The other teenager, who did not run when the officer stopped Derrick, was not detained.

    Police recovered Derrick's gun, but Brosnan would not specify its type or say whether it was loaded.

    Michael Red, Derrick's stepfather, said the other boy stopped by police had told him the officer had no reason to shoot. Derrick had been on his way home from a nearby McDonald's, Red said.

    "He was 15 years old," Red said. "It's not a shoot first, ask later situation. This is something you can't take back."

    Derrick carried a gun with him for protection "on the streets" but was too "street smart" to pull it on a police officer, said a friend, 16-year-old Lorne Burnham. He was at a small memorial Wednesday outside the gas station, which consisted of teddy bears, candles and the message, "Rest in peace, baby boy."

    He said Derrick liked rapping and making music and had recently left South San Francisco High School to be home-schooled.

    Others who visited the memorial throughout the day voiced skepticism at the police version of events.

    "It's bull-- that the cop thought his life was in danger," said Jose Diaz, 23. "Come on, it's a 15-year-old kid with a handgun. He's a cop."

    His friend Luis Gomez, 19, added, "Just because they got a badge on, they think they can do whatever they want."

    Both speculated that Derrick had been trying to dispose of his gun when he was shot.

    They acknowledged he had had run-ins with the law, but said he had never looked for trouble. They said they didn't know the details of his crimes.

    South San Francisco has seen a rise in attention-getting incidents involving young people and guns. A 14-year-old boy was killed by gang gunfire in September, a victim of mistaken identity, and three young men died in December 2010 in a drive-by shooting.

    Police established a neighborhood task force after the 2010 shooting to crack down on gangs, and joined forces with federal authorities to arrest 13 alleged gang members in May.

    Derrick's friend Diaz, however, said the police campaign was "not about feeling safe, it's about harassment. I feel like they're marking down everything, everyone. Just because you dress a certain way doesn't make you a gang member."

    He and Gomez said Derrick had not been in a gang.

    The teen's death was the first fatal shooting by a South San Francisco police officer in at least 30 years, Brosnan said. The officer who shot the boy has not been identified.

    The shooting is under investigation by police and the San Mateo County district attorney's office.
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    Parents are too busy watching porn.
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      #3
      Apparently they need to save their marriages
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        #4
        Ever think it might not be kept in the house? Well Off neighborhood so houses are about 3800 sq feet average, I think as a kid I could find many places to hid a weapon.

        Parents are partially to blame but the ink is not dry on the paperwork, IA normally does an investigation on shootings so as the details are vague maybe there was a witness and so forth and more details will come.

        I do agree that most parents these days don't discipline their kids in public or at home. They want to be their kids friends which is not helping them at all. So as a result of this what will happen? Nothing people will quickly forget.
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          #5
          Still, this is a neighborhood that doesn't have very much criminal activity at all, to say he needs a gun for the streets?? Really? I used to walk around at all times of the night when I was younger never needed to worry about gang members of people up to no good hanging on the corner.

          I know exactly where this happened, it's at the corner of the busiest intersection of the area with lights everywhere and at 9pm people are still out doing errands or walking their dogs.

          Even if the kid didn't point the gun at the cop, he never should have had it in his possession in the first place. At 15 they dont know how to handle the weapon and would be unpredictable. We shall see what happens.
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            #6
            I had a 12yr old kid pull a knife on me at a public skatepark that was AT A POLICE station. I knocked it out of his hand before he knew what he was doing and grabbed him by the neck and drug him into the police station. Kids are stupid these days. It's unfortunate that some have to learn the hard way.
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              #7
              either no dad involved in the kids life or parents are also criminals.

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                #8
                I live in an average middle class neighborhood, and my children attend public schools. Last year there were 2 children expelled from his kindergarten class! It all came down to these kids just had no discipline whatsoever, at that stage in life I would have to put the blame solely on the parents. These kids are being raised by tv and video games, while the parents do their own thing, it's just out of control. I also coach my sons little league team, I have had to explain to 3 different parents that we are not running a babysitting service, and that they should be staying for the duration of the game/practice. I attribute alot of these problems to people having kids at such an early age, so many parents are still kids themselves. As for the story referenced above, I'm interested in more details as they surface, while that kid had no business carrying a gun, i'm not convinced the police were completely justified in their actions either.

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                  #9
                  I agree the police probably shot first asked question later but no gun no death period. Worse comes to worse kid wouldve been tackled by a cop instead of being shot at.
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                    #10
                    You cant blame the parents for everything here, at some point, kids need to learn not to be fucking retarded. I was raised very well, yet I did some stupid shit growing up. No, I didn't pull a gun on a cop then run, but still. This kid obviously didn't learn to not be fucking retarded, and he's now dead.


                    Originally posted by ohthejosh View Post
                    I agree the police probably shot first asked question later but no gun no death period. Worse comes to worse kid wouldve been tackled by a cop instead of being shot at.
                    You aren't implying police should first try to determine if the kid actually intends to shoot before firing?
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by VANOS714 View Post
                      either no dad involved in the kids life or parents are also criminals.
                      Way to blanket of a statement.
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by ohthejosh View Post
                        I agree the police probably shot first asked question later but no gun no death period. Worse comes to worse kid wouldve been tackled by a cop instead of being shot at.
                        There is certain protocol in place to protect the lives of the officers. Example: If someone brandishing a knife comes within 20 feet of an officer, he is to shoot/taser them. Why? Because 20 feet is enough time that if the attacker were to lunge at the officer, even if he is shot within the 20 ft, that he can still reach the officer and inflict harm on him/her.

                        I would expect a more, open set of rules governing the use of a firearm against and officer. Remember, treat every firearm as if it is a loaded firearm. Sure, there are non-lethal ways to disarm a person, but things such as tasers only reach so far, and are only so accurate at a distance. Fight or flight took over. I'm sure the officer didn't WANT to shoot a kid, but when a gun is pointed at you, again, treat every firearm as if it is loaded.

                        That officer probably had in the back of his mind, his coworker being shot at a regular traffic stop last week. They always have to assume the worst can happen because too often it does.

                        Doesn't change that a young life was taken too early, but seriously, what kind of 14 y/o runs around with a gun? I mean, really, parents to blame or not.

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                          #13
                          Derrick carried a gun with him for protection "on the streets" but was too "street smart" to pull it on a police officer, said a friend, 16-year-old Lorne Burnham

                          I'm sorry for being a terrible person but that made me chuckle...
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                            #14
                            these kids are hella dumb! and all the comments from the peanut gallery in the article. like slammin said always assume worst case, if he didn't shoot news could have been 15 year old shoots cop dead. 15 year old shouldn't have gun on street period.....
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                              "It's bull-- that the cop thought his life was in danger," said Jose Diaz, 23. "Come on, it's a 15-year-old kid with a handgun. He's a cop."

                              This made me laugh. The kid had a gun, why wouldn't he feel as if his life was in danger. There are kids in Africa who are far younger that kill people everyday. Why wouldn't this "Street Smart" kid not be able to do the same?

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