Parenting, what happened to it?

[ohthejosh]

You aren't implying police should first try to determine if the kid actually intends to shoot before firing?

Sort of, only because there is such a large grey area with so much missing details in the article itself. I know the area very well and from where the front doors of the McDonalds is to where the kid was shot is no more than 30yards.

Thinking about it now, I think the suspicious behavior may have been him showing off the gun to his friend and when the cop asked him to stop he bolted with gun in hand. He turns back and cop thinks he will shoot and fires single shot. Where ever the cop car stopped to where the kid died as is probably around 10-30ft. So it was pretty close range. The death is the result of the kids stupidity but I still would blame the parents for the death.

Remember, I love you Josh! <3

I understand, but not enough details to be conclusive of whether the cop really had to shoot or not. Was the gun really brandished or was it a fabricated story after seeing a gun? Who knows.


Either way, if the cop did shoot him when his life was if fact not in danger. The kid wouldve been killed anyways for carrying a gun and getting into trouble. This is why I don't like getting into any altercations anymore. To many idiots with guns that have no reason to have one in the first place.

[Ryan...]

Sort of, only because there is such a large grey area with so much missing details in the article itself. I know the area very well and from where the front doors of the McDonalds is to where the kid was shot is no more than 30yards.

Thinking about it now, I think the suspicious behavior may have been him showing off the gun to his friend and when the cop asked him to stop he bolted with gun in hand. He turns back and cop thinks he will shoot and fires single shot. Where ever the cop car stopped to where the kid died as is probably around 10-30ft. So it was pretty close range. The death is the result of the kids stupidity but I still would blame the parents for the death.

Fact: police do not ask questions to people carrying guns. If a gun is pulled/pointed anywhere a cop or civilian can be injured, the kid gets shot. Period. That's how it works. If the kid had run away and shot an innocent bystander you'd be crying about how the police did nothing to stop that gruesome murder. When people realize the police aren't babysitters, there will be less of these instances happening daily.

Also, you have no idea of knowing what exactly happened, so no use speculating. Parents cant hold their children's hands 24/7, at some point they need to grow the fuck up. That kid didn't use his head, and now he wont grow up.

[10Toes]

I would of blown that kids head off too.

[ohthejosh]

Fact: police do not ask questions to people carrying guns. If a gun is pulled/pointed anywhere a cop or civilian can be injured, the kid gets shot. Period. That's how it works. If the kid had run away and shot an innocent bystander you'd be crying about how the police did nothing to stop that gruesome murder. When people realize the police aren't babysitters, there will be less of these instances happening daily.

Also, you have no idea of knowing what exactly happened, so no use speculating. Parents cant hold their children's hands 24/7, at some point they need to grow the fuck up. That kid didn't use his head, and now he wont grow up.

I couldve sworn Ive seen episodes of cops yelling out "Drop your weapon!" Its more of a command but even that is question asking if you want to die or not to the person with a gun. Im not saying the cop is in the wrong at all, all im saying is we really do not know if the gun was brandished or not so thats whatever. Kid had a gun when i can assure you he didnt need it if all he was doing was going to McD's so he got shot, it wouldve happened sooner or later by a cop or someone else.

Now the parenting issue, he is 14, he is his parents responsibility. There is a 10 o clock curfew for that area. As a responsible parent, sent an earlier curfew. Shit drive him to fckn McDonalds. If he gets in so much trouble as the article implies then have a tighter grip on how he is living his life. When he is 18 then let him mess that shit up. Parents need to be more disciplined these days period.

[z31maniac]

I blame rap music.

[Exodus_2pt0]

Parents, kid, society, all can share the blame... To an extent. Parent's for not instilling values in their child, society for making the kids feel they need to arm themselves, and the Child himself for not taking the value of life a little more seriously.

However, a Police officer can not be blamed for shooting an armed suspect. If the kid got shot, it can be assumed he pulled the gun. No one wants to shoot a child, no matter how corrupt you are.

[mikeedler]

I blame it on the colorful girls pants that all the young kids are wearing today, cuts off the circulation to the balls, and there you have it..... dumb ass kids.

The world has always been f**ked, and there have always been idiots, even 100s of years ago, it just wasn't as easy for everyone to know what is going on all over the world.

[cunninglinguist]

Parents too busy replacing the heater core in their E30 to properly parent. </STORY>

[slammin.e28]

Parents too busy replacing the heater core in their E30 to properly parent. </STORY>

Maybe if someone would make a viable replacement out of something it wouldn't be so bad, maybe, a dog house? Perhaps a Hamster cage?






Maybe even a......











......fishbowl.

[Lof8]

We really need some form of qualification to reproduce.
The cop is 100% justified in his actions.
No sympathy from me.

[cale]

Nice comments from his friends, not too surprised one of them got shot considering how stupid his friends are.

I lol'd @ "recently left high school to be home schooled", aka he's a dropout or was kicked out.

[Exodus_2pt0]

......fishbowl.

[Philipangoo]

let me get this straight. The kid ran from the police... and is dumb enough to then pull a gun once the cop catches up.... and there are people defending him ?!

[LuckyHenriksen]

Nice comments from his friends, not too surprised one of them got shot considering how stupid his friends are.

I lol'd @ "recently left high school to be home schooled", aka he's a dropout or was kicked out.

let me get this straight. The kid ran from the police... and is dumb enough to then pull a gun once the cop catches up.... and there are people defending him ?!

This. Nothing surprising here. How it goes in the hood

[canadiankid]

I read an article awhile back which showed that police try to keep you over 20 feet away. The reasoning being that an attacker could deploy a knife a cover those 20 feet before the officer drew his weapon. There is a video on youtube I am trying to find that illustrates training with a target moving towards you at sprint speed. The goal: draw and get a doubletap before the target reaches you. It is actually very difficult, especially in a high stress situation. If you draw a weapon, any weapon less than 30 ft away from an officer, expect to get shot. And I wouldnt blame the officer.

For the ccw'ers on here try it. Get a fake gun and fake knife, or whatever your poison. Get a friend to stand at 20 feet. Have him randomly charge and see if you can draw and even get on target before he sticks you. I think the results will be sobering.

Heres one article.

http://www.theppsc.org/Staff_Views/Tueller/How.Close.htm