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  • jaywood
    R3V Elite
    • Jul 2010
    • 4528

    #1

    Casting aluminum

    Does anyone here cast?

    At work I do a lot of tooling. The parts get sent out (made in repro first) and get casted in aluminum. It gets pretty expensive, however. So I thought about making a furnace to melt down scrap aluminum, and then casting our own parts. We have a lot of left over tools laying around (LOTS of scrap alu) that could be turned into new, usable tools.

    Looking for furnace ideas, and thoughts/opinions on everything else.

    Thank you r3v.
  • kwill22
    E30 Modder
    • Apr 2009
    • 962

    #2
    I say go for it. I don't know exactly how everything's gonna be done or whats involved with getting the moulds but I'm interested. I'm sure there's more experience on R3V.

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    Originally posted by mkcman17
    don't think your hamster wheels are fast now. you will still have to give up when trying to pass that V6 odyssey to make your offramp.

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    • euro2fast4u
      Banned
      • May 2009
      • 545

      #3
      lol you say go for it but you have no idea whats involved with casting.

      you need more then likely a ceramic crucible that you can melt the aluminum and a heating supply probably propane. you'll need shit to pick up the crucible as it will be very hott. are you just trying to pour bricks of aluminum and then machine it down?

      youll also need to make sure there there is a minimum amount of impurities when your done casting as excess gas and minerals can cause weak parts.

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      • m73m95
        Grease Monkey
        • May 2011
        • 319

        #4
        Originally posted by euro2fast4u
        lol you say go for it but you have no idea whats involved with casting.

        you need more then likely a ceramic crucible that you can melt the aluminum and a heating supply probably propane. you'll need shit to pick up the crucible as it will be very hott. are you just trying to pour bricks of aluminum and then machine it down?

        youll also need to make sure there there is a minimum amount of impurities when your done casting as excess gas and minerals can cause weak parts.
        Depends on what you're making.

        You can melt lead in an old cast iron pot on the stove, if you want to practice making molds, or some test pieces.

        You don't need to worry about impurities of aluminum unless you're making structural pieces. I would stay away from e30 hubs for your first few attempts. Some decorative shit...melt and pour to your hearts content.

        Very good (beginner) site.

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        • kwill22
          E30 Modder
          • Apr 2009
          • 962

          #5
          Originally posted by euro2fast4u
          lol you say go for it but you have no idea whats involved with casting.
          If that was directed towards me. Right after I said go for it I said but I don't know whats involved sooooo :p

          I'm not one to tell people not to do somthing constructive that they want to do as long as they're willing to do all the work involved which it seems that's why he's here asking. So like I said go for it.
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          Originally posted by mkcman17
          don't think your hamster wheels are fast now. you will still have to give up when trying to pass that V6 odyssey to make your offramp.

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          • Massimo
            No R3VLimiter
            • Jan 2008
            • 3207

            #6
            No reason why not. The only issue as mentioned before is QC of material. there are plenty of articals on making your own blast furnace on google so good luck.
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            • dannyyisntt
              No R3VLimiter
              • Sep 2008
              • 3141

              #7
              My uncle does this. I'll ask him about it if I see him over the 4th
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              • Fusion
                No R3VLimiter
                • Nov 2009
                • 3658

                #8
                Search youtube. I've watched lots of videos with small DIY furnaces for melting gold and other metals.

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                • jaywood
                  R3V Elite
                  • Jul 2010
                  • 4528

                  #9
                  Not making structural pieces...just molds for molding plastic sheets.

                  Going to do more research on this tonight! Thanks for the comments so far guys!

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                  • AndrewBird
                    The Mad Scientist
                    • Oct 2003
                    • 11898

                    #10
                    To put it simply, there is a LOT more to it then you think there is. Why do you think it is so expensive to get done?

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                    • gearheadE30
                      No R3VLimiter
                      • Jun 2007
                      • 3734

                      #11
                      An SAE Baja team cast an aluminum gearbox this year. I think it ran them $6000 all said and done, starting from scratch.

                      Project M42 Turbo

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                      • mechdonald
                        Advanced Member
                        • Sep 2011
                        • 111

                        #12
                        One of the best threads on the internet... well for this sort of thing



                        Make sure you have some time set aside - this guy is ingenious.

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                        • scottinAZ
                          E30 Fanatic
                          • Dec 2009
                          • 1312

                          #13
                          if it can be done in a high school industrial arts class, you can do it yourself as well.
                          as others have said, the furnace and the crucible will be the hard parts. other than that, some petrobond sand, and mold forms, you should be in business.
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                          • Sagaris
                            R3VLimited
                            • Sep 2009
                            • 2243

                            #14
                            Having done aluminum casting before, I can say that cast aluminum is some wimpy crap unless you study up on metallurgy and learn how to heat treat/case harden it. It isn't that difficult to do, but it makes all the difference.

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                            • deutschman
                              R3V Elite
                              • May 2008
                              • 5958

                              #15
                              You can use a small air/gas tank with the top cut off along with some heat proof cement. There are a ton of YouTube vids on this as well as how and what to makes molds out of and so on.
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                              "The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten."

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