Is it just me or all the younger women just..

[Ryan Stewart]

I'm pretty much you just 12 years younger.

I'm that guy who always gets told "you deserve someone better than me" or "you are so amazing you deserve someone really nice"

None have stepped up to the plate though.

We should swap chicks. I keep getting told I'm an arrogant, self-centered piece of shit. Never kept me from being in a relationship or getting some so I never worried about it.

[Q5Quint]

^^^ I am slowly morphing from Holland into you.

I keep meeting nice chicks, they try to settle me down, and I am not really all that interested. I enjoy my freedom from a slumpy hateful wife- I know many that had good experiences with marriage and many that have or are having horrible ones.

I will keep taking my chances with the angry 30s crowd, as they seem to have the most fun.

[Kozworth]

Word to that. It used to bother me really bad, but I just don't care anymore. Learning not to give a shit really makes it easier. I know so many people that are so hung up on dating, finding a gf, chasing that next piece of ass, etc, it just seems like a giant waste of time to me. I'd rather be working on my E30.

For some reason I am undateable. Not to brag but a Loy of people say I am one of the nicest guys and that I could get any girl. But it turns out false. Whenever I try I usually get screwed over one way or another. I mostly have just got in this automotive bubble to e happy with y career choice and drive a car I love everyday. While I am usually good most days, sometimes I regret not having more female communications.

[redsubdivisions]

I keep getting told I'm an arrogant, self-centered piece of shit. Never kept me from being in a relationship or getting some so I never worried about it.

haha. Story of my life after I realized being nice didn't get me jack shit when it came to females.

[evandael]

when I think of my group of friends, I can say that an overwhelming majority of them are female.

this is a double edged sword, in that through communicating with females I get a sense of what they need/want and i also enjoy going out with them as it makes me look/feel 'normal' and dateable, but without the pretense of dating or complications of sex. on the flip side, i constantly run the risk of being friend zoned when I begin to take a serious interest in a friend, and also if I am dating someone, having predominately female friends leads to suspicion and concern on my partners side.

honestly though all great relationships lack the predicated urge to date.. ie, letting things evolve naturally from strangers to friends to lovers is the best way to go. it takes patience, self denial, self control, but like all good things, more time yields the best outcome.

if anything, I lament that I don't have guy friends to hang out with for balance, or when I get tired of the ladies (which doesn't really happen, but when it does, man I am over it!)

[matthugie]

Wow, this is a rather depressing thread, though there is some good advice here and there. Here is most of what I have taken from my ~15 years in the dating world, which includes failure, success, everything from manwhoring to celibacy, one night stands to multi-year relationships.

1. First, you must know and be comfortable with yourself. If you aren't happy with who you are and where you are in life, then don't bother looking. You can tell if someone is a happy person or not, and if not you generally don't want to be around them. If you aren't happy with where you are, then your energy should be in rectifying that situation first.
2. Along the same lines of 1. know that confidence breeds success. If you're comfortable with yourself there's no reason not to be confident. Bishes love confidence. This doesn't mean being a dick, just apply #3.
3. Be yourself. Don't try to be what you think someone else wants, to assume you know what they want will burn you (this goes for job interviews as well). Forcing a fit never works long run, and you won't be happy. At some point you will need to be yourself, and when that happens they will feel lied to and then no one will be happy.
4. Don't be idealistic. Know what traits are important to you and what your deal breakers are, but don't pigeon hole yourself into only looking for one type of person. Often what you think you want isn't what you need or are compatible with. If you're only looking for a 5'9" 36-24-36 blonde hair blue eyed chick who wrenches on e30's, you're gonna have a bad time.
5. Be nice. No, being nice doesn't mean being effeminate or being a pansy. Yes, I know the cliche "nice guys finish last." It's bullshit (long-term anyway). Yes, there are some women who like being treated like shite, but the overwhelming majority do like a nice guy. This means being respectful and having some compassion for your fellow man. You'll be amazed how far a small random act of kindness will go with women.
6. Don't try too hard. This applies to a lot of things, but know that desperation doesn't look good on anyone. This doesn't mean not to put in effort, effort is appreciated, but be reasonable. Some women may like to be choked, but they don't like to be suffocated. Texting them every 6 seconds isn't going to work out for you.
7. Patience. Probably should be #1, and has been mentioned before. Also relevant to #1, #3, and #6. Yes, everyone around you may be married, having kids, etc. Whatever. You live your life, let them live theirs. Don't worry about what others have (especially in terms of relationships), that shouldn't matter to you. Also, if you're in your early to mid 20's, you have nothing at all to complain about. Women your age too immature? Go cougar hunting or something. Goes back to #4, know what you want.

I may add to or amend this later, but this should at least get some gears turning.

[CabbE30]

when I think of my group of friends, I can say that an overwhelming majority of them are female.

this is a double edged sword, in that through communicating with females I get a sense of what they need/want and i also enjoy going out with them as it makes me look/feel 'normal' and dateable, but without the pretense of dating or complications of sex. on the flip side, i constantly run the risk of being friend zoned when I begin to take a serious interest in a friend, and also if I am dating someone, having predominately female friends leads to suspicion and concern on my partners side.

honestly though all great relationships lack the predicated urge to date.. ie, letting things evolve naturally from strangers to friends to lovers is the best way to go. it takes patience, self denial, self control, but like all good things, more time yields the best outcome.

if anything, I lament that I don't have guy friends to hang out with for balance, or when I get tired of the ladies (which doesn't really happen, but when it does, man I am over it!)

[shameson]

you're gonna have a bad time.

[herbivor]

Maybe try being gay since girls turn you off. I'm sure there are plenty of gay men out there that will be whatever you want them to be. You just have to take it up the ass once and awhile but hey, at least you don't have to worry about pregnancy or periods or bad blow jobs.

[Mlarsen]

Just keep swimmin'

But seriously, we're all a little crazy in our twenties.

[Kozworth]

Wow, this is a rather depressing thread, though there is some good advice here and there. Here is most of what I have taken from my ~15 years in the dating world, which includes failure, success, everything from manwhoring to celibacy, one night stands to multi-year relationships.

1. First, you must know and be comfortable with yourself. If you aren't happy with who you are and where you are in life, then don't bother looking. You can tell if someone is a happy person or not, and if not you generally don't want to be around them. If you aren't happy with where you are, then your energy should be in rectifying that situation first.
2. Along the same lines of 1. know that confidence breeds success. If you're comfortable with yourself there's no reason not to be confident. Bishes love confidence. This doesn't mean being a dick, just apply #3.
3. Be yourself. Don't try to be what you think someone else wants, to assume you know what they want will burn you (this goes for job interviews as well). Forcing a fit never works long run, and you won't be happy. At some point you will need to be yourself, and when that happens they will feel lied to and then no one will be happy.
4. Don't be idealistic. Know what traits are important to you and what your deal breakers are, but don't pigeon hole yourself into only looking for one type of person. Often what you think you want isn't what you need or are compatible with. If you're only looking for a 5'9" 36-24-36 blonde hair blue eyed chick who wrenches on e30's, you're gonna have a bad time.
5. Be nice. No, being nice doesn't mean being effeminate or being a pansy. Yes, I know the cliche "nice guys finish last." It's bullshit (long-term anyway). Yes, there are some women who like being treated like shite, but the overwhelming majority do like a nice guy. This means being respectful and having some compassion for your fellow man. You'll be amazed how far a small random act of kindness will go with women.
6. Don't try too hard. This applies to a lot of things, but know that desperation doesn't look good on anyone. This doesn't mean not to put in effort, effort is appreciated, but be reasonable. Some women may like to be choked, but they don't like to be suffocated. Texting them every 6 seconds isn't going to work out for you.
7. Patience. Probably should be #1, and has been mentioned before. Also relevant to #1, #3, and #6. Yes, everyone around you may be married, having kids, etc. Whatever. You live your life, let them live theirs. Don't worry about what others have (especially in terms of relationships), that shouldn't matter to you. Also, if you're in your early to mid 20's, you have nothing at all to complain about. Women your age too immature? Go cougar hunting or something. Goes back to #4, know what you want.

I may add to or amend this later, but this should at least get some gears turning.

This is a good share of advice. Thank you for your input and feel free to add anything.

[Xat1cZ]

'sup



laters

[Pl3wA]

My girlfriend just broke up with me :'(
She was my first girlfriend and it only lasted 3 months. She said i needed more experience with dating. We definitely rushed it. Well i dont want to keep going through short relationships. She still wants to be friends but idk if i can do that if i still like her.

o well, maybe one day ill grow up

[Xat1cZ]

She said i needed more experience with dating.

That's quite a stupid thing to say, why not gain experience with her, rather than basically turning into a man-whore for the next ~2 years, and then maybe she'll date you again? :loco:

[Stanley Rockafella]

so much losing in this thread.


sad...very sad