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  • E30 Wagen

    #46
    I was raised in a very white, Dutch neighborhood. There were maybe two black kids in my graduating class.

    This year I'm taking classes at a community college in Muskegon where the the black population is much more prominent. For a number of social/economic reasons, fellow classmates from my highschool as well as others from surrounding "white" upper class communities have found themselves at this school sharing an education with with a variety of races. At this school is an upper floor congregation area and a quieter, studying area on the lower floor. An article in the campus newspaper pointed out that all of the white kids spent their time in the lower floor hanging out and all of the black kids on the upper floor, describing our campus as "segregated." I read that and thought "yup" because I had noticed the same thing. I recall reasons given by the white kids that they prefered the downstairs because it was quieter, and I agree. I'm ashamed to admit that I've always thought of black people as boisterous and have avoided that upper floor because of that. But I'm also just a quiet guy...

    What's funny is that I did not picture this at all before enrolling there. Yet everyday, I see the black groups and the white groups, no mingling. We are friendly with each other of course, but, no mingling whatsoever. We want nothing to do with each other. What's terrible is that many of the stereotypes I've acquired about black people have only been reinforced. All too often do I see the "rapper" dressed as if he's prepared to be discovered any second, and the females with ginormous hoop earings, crazy make-up, and booty pants. I see Escalades and other hoopties on 22's all the time. I thought community college was for poor people?

    Anyway, I'm sure many of the kids I went to highschool with are observing the same thing and are having similar thoughts. Likewise, I don't think black people understand "us," nor do they care about what we think. It seems they only care about the insightful opinions of theirr black role-models and their take on American culture, including Kanye, Spike Lee, and pretty much every rap star who's somehow made it big. Black people observe all the wrong role models! Who are the black people they learn about in school? Those who resisted slavery and then those who fought the white government for equality in the 60's. That's like the only history of their race in America's history, not to mention if they were to take European history... They respect only what their race can achieve on its own, saying "fuck you, crackers!" and I think that's where the tension surfaces as it did in Kanye's statement toward Bush's supposed neglect of the black population, but I think it was also toward the government that he, along with many black people, still perceives as predominately white, personified by Bush.

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    • misterlance
      Advanced Member
      • Nov 2005
      • 170

      #47
      Originally posted by E30 Wagen
      I was raised in a very white, Dutch neighborhood. There were maybe two black kids in my graduating class.

      This year I'm taking classes at a community college in Muskegon where the the black population is much more prominent. For a number of social/economic reasons, fellow classmates from my highschool as well as others from surrounding "white" upper class communities have found themselves at this school sharing an education with with a variety of races. At this school is an upper floor congregation area and a quieter, studying area on the lower floor. An article in the campus newspaper pointed out that all of the white kids spent their time in the lower floor hanging out and all of the black kids on the upper floor, describing our campus as "segregated." I read that and thought "yup" because I had noticed the same thing. I recall reasons given by the white kids that they prefered the downstairs because it was quieter, and I agree. I'm ashamed to admit that I've always thought of black people as boisterous and have avoided that upper floor because of that. But I'm also just a quiet guy...

      What's funny is that I did not picture this at all before enrolling there. Yet everyday, I see the black groups and the white groups, no mingling. We are friendly with each other of course, but, no mingling whatsoever. We want nothing to do with each other. What's terrible is that many of the stereotypes I've acquired about black people have only been reinforced. All too often do I see the "rapper" dressed as if he's prepared to be discovered any second, and the females with ginormous hoop earings, crazy make-up, and booty pants. I see Escalades and other hoopties on 22's all the time. I thought community college was for poor people?

      Anyway, I'm sure many of the kids I went to highschool with are observing the same thing and are having similar thoughts. Likewise, I don't think black people understand "us," nor do they care about what we think. It seems they only care about the insightful opinions of theirr black role-models and their take on American culture, including Kanye, Spike Lee, and pretty much every rap star who's somehow made it big. Black people observe all the wrong role models! Who are the black people they learn about in school? Those who resisted slavery and then those who fought the white government for equality in the 60's. That's like the only history of their race in America's history, not to mention if they were to take European history... They respect only what their race can achieve on its own, saying "fuck you, crackers!" and I think that's where the tension surfaces as it did in Kanye's statement toward Bush's supposed neglect of the black population, but I think it was also toward the government that he, along with many black people, still perceives as predominately white, personified by Bush.
      Thank-you for the honest post. I dont blame Bush for what he is anymore than I blame myself. What bothers me is when people cant admit the truth and throw a simple-minded political slant on things. What Kanye did is typical of what he is. A young college dropout. Im sure some of you have heard of the sixties. The same and worse was said by even young white people.

      And one more thing for the political hyenas. Being a poor Republican is like being a Black KKK member.:letitout:

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      • eurostyl e30
        E30 Addict
        • Dec 2005
        • 554

        #48
        Originally posted by Eurospeed
        Ok, if you want to start talking about sucking the life out of hip-hop, you can START with Puffy-Diddy-Daddy-whatever-the-fuck he calls himself now. That is NOT hip-hop. That is marketing, advertising, benjamins, bling, and business.

        You want to start talking about hip-hop? Hip-Hop is Swollen Members, Jurassic-5, the Fugees, Beastie Boys, Del, X-Cutioners, Afrikka Bambaata, DJ Shadow, DJ Cam, Q-bert, Mix-Master-Mike, Naut Humon, Rob the Viking...
        That's what I was getting at. I'm glad you mentioned Del too. His 'Both Sides of the Brain' and 'Deltron 3030' albums are off the hook.

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        • KrisHolloway
          Advanced Member
          • Jan 2005
          • 142

          #49
          Well, just like at my high school Laurel MS, It is 90 sum-odd percent black. It is they way with public schools in the south but Racial division is ever present. At lunch, you see the white tables and the black tables. Thats how it is and more than likely, the way it will always be. It doesnt have to be called racism, just in a way we all have our different ideals. While the whites may be indulged with there different shit, so are the blacks. I have had to live it all my life. Hell, I was one of the 3 white boys on the football team! Oh, well Kanye West is a deush and George Bush has made sum fucked up decisions. Shit Happens.
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          • JeffB///
            Noobie
            • Feb 2006
            • 25

            #50
            Kanye West: Bad rapper, good producer.

            George Bush: Bad president, good source of humor.

            my .02

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            • gazellebeigem3
              No R3VLimiter
              • Jun 2005
              • 3712

              #51
              bump for kayne being a piece of shit

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              • StereoInstaller1
                GAS
                • Jul 2004
                • 22679

                #52
                Originally posted by gazellebeigem3
                bump for kayne being a piece of shit
                Did you have to? This thread was dead and buried.

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                • TooTall90
                  Grease Monkey
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 338

                  #53
                  damn this Taylor Swift girl must have a lot of fans, every damn website i visit is getting butt hurt over what Kanye said, i think it was just a case of Dave chappelle's "when keeping it real goes wrong" lol.

                  in reality if it was Brittany Spears or Keisha Cole up there no one would give two shits about the whole thing... just dont mess with the innocent Country singers lol

                  so all you ppl that are raging and rioting over kanye's actions should just get over it, he is just getting more publicity from it, i personally think that Lil' Mama jumping on stage and trying to be cool when Jay-Z was closing the show was more interesting(?).

                  EDIT: for the lulz











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                  • blunttech
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                    • Jul 2004
                    • 12850

                    #54
                    Originally posted by TooTall90
                    damn this Taylor Swift girl must have a lot of fans, every damn website i visit is getting butt hurt over what Kanye said, i think it was just a case of Dave chappelle's "when keeping it real goes wrong" lol.

                    in reality if it was Brittany Spears or Keisha Cole up there no one would give two shits about the whole thing... just dont mess with the innocent Country singers lol

                    so all you ppl that are raging and rioting over kanye's actions should just get over it, he is just getting more publicity from it, i personally think that Lil' Mama jumping on stage and trying to be cool when Jay-Z was closing the show was more interesting(?).
                    shut the fuck up. nobody gives a shit what you think. the guys a fucking asshole
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                    • GaryE30
                      R3V Elite
                      • Oct 2003
                      • 4791

                      #55
                      Originally posted by blunt
                      shut the fuck up. nobody gives a shit what you think. the guys a fucking asshole
                      +1


                      If he would have done that to anyone it would have had the same outcome... he would have been booed off the stage and been forced to give a "sincere" apology on some late night show.

                      Doesn't matter who it was that he disrespected, it's only WHAT he did.
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                      • TooTall90
                        Grease Monkey
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 338

                        #56
                        easy there guys i didnt mean to get you all so upset lol
                        yes it was an act of douchebaggery
                        yes it was wrong
                        ...but who cares?

                        its a win win for everyone involved. taylor swift is no looked upon with pity (MORE SALES), beyonce comes off as a kind hearted souls by letting swift finish(MORE SALES) kanye creates publicity for himself (MORE SALES) MTV has a more interesting show, creates 'water-cooler talk' next which generates more views (MORE SALES) Jay-z sits back and rolls in pools of money.
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                        • blunttech
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                          • Jul 2004
                          • 12850

                          #57
                          Originally posted by TooTall90
                          easy there guys i didnt mean to get you all so upset lol
                          yes it was an act of douchebaggery
                          yes it was wrong
                          ...but who cares?

                          its a win win for everyone involved. taylor swift is no looked upon with pity (MORE SALES), beyonce comes off as a kind hearted souls by letting swift finish(MORE SALES) kanye creates publicity for himself (MORE SALES) MTV has a more interesting show, creates 'water-cooler talk' next which generates more views (MORE SALES) Jay-z sits back and rolls in pools of money.
                          not really. a win win situation would be if kanye got gunned down outside the VMA's
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                          • Optimator
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                            • Aug 2008
                            • 1396

                            #58
                            Originally posted by blunt
                            not really. a win win situation would be if kanye got gunned down outside the VMA's
                            No. Hate crimes are never a win/win situation, and Kanye's a pretty big flamer.
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                            • TooTall90
                              Grease Monkey
                              • Mar 2009
                              • 338

                              #59
                              Originally posted by blunt
                              not really. a win win situation would be if kanye got gunned down outside the VMA's
                              :drink:yo blunt, dont worry imma let you finish but, Optimators had one of the best post of all time!



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                              • pureaudio
                                E30 Enthusiast
                                • May 2009
                                • 1123

                                #60
                                The rap community is to busy getting manicures and marketing their new vodka to do a proper drive by on this douche hole.
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