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  • Drew325is
    E30 Addict
    • Oct 2004
    • 520

    #16
    The reduced noise of e-race cars might actually end up being the savior of race tracks suffering from urban encroachment. In my city there are already two tracks having to impose noise restrictions due to community complaints (yup, it's lame when people move next to something noisy and then complain, but that's life I guess). Would rather keep facilities open with quiet race cars, than see tracks closed and turned into houses that all look the same.

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    • ELVA164
      R3V Elite
      • Dec 2011
      • 4861

      #17
      That's like saying, "We were able to save him, but he won't use his arms, legs, kidneys, or penis ever again." Technically true, but still really sad.
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      • decay
        R3V Elite
        • Oct 2003
        • 5637

        #18
        Have you guys ever ridden in a Tesla? They're not silent. Under load they make a sound like a turbine.
        past:
        1989 325is (learner shitbox)
        1986 325e (turbo dorito)
        1991 318ic (5-lug ITB)
        1985 323i baur
        current:
        1995 M3 (suspension, 17x9/255-40, borla)

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        • Drew325is
          E30 Addict
          • Oct 2004
          • 520

          #19
          Originally posted by ELVA164
          That's like saying, "We were able to save him, but he won't use his arms, legs, kidneys, or penis ever again." Technically true, but still really sad.
          Considering how fast electric cars are evolving, it'll probably be more like "we were able to save him, but he won't be able to use his arms, legs, kidneys, or penis ever again, so we basically grafted his head onto a T800"

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          • mrsleeve
            I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
            • Mar 2005
            • 16385

            #20
            Originally posted by decay
            Have you guys ever ridden in a Tesla? They're not silent. Under load they make a sound like a turbine.
            Being a former military guy, one would think you would know how loud a turbine is. Me thinks there is a huge DB difference between the enviro-douch sports car and something actually powered by a turbine, especially form the outside, where there is not that much nose more than few feet from the motors. Hell even model cars and planes with very small turbine power plants make more noise than a fucking Tesla or Fisker..... Yes eletric motors make noise when under heavy load, but its nothing compared to hydrocarbons that have been set on fire in a confined environment ;)
            Originally posted by Fusion
            If a car is the epitome of freedom, than an electric car is house arrest with your wife titty fucking your next door neighbor.
            The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money. -Alexis de Tocqueville


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            • decay
              R3V Elite
              • Oct 2003
              • 5637

              #21
              Originally posted by mrsleeve
              Being a former military guy, one would think you would know how loud a turbine is. Me thinks there is a huge DB difference between the enviro-douch sports car and something actually powered by a turbine, especially form the outside, where there is not that much nose more than few feet from the motors. Hell even model cars and planes with very small turbine power plants make more noise than a fucking Tesla or Fisker..... Yes eletric motors make noise when under heavy load, but its nothing compared to hydrocarbons that have been set on fire in a confined environment ;)
              I did not say "as loud as". I said "a sound like".

              Also, this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?x-yt-c...-ts=1421914688
              past:
              1989 325is (learner shitbox)
              1986 325e (turbo dorito)
              1991 318ic (5-lug ITB)
              1985 323i baur
              current:
              1995 M3 (suspension, 17x9/255-40, borla)

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              • mrsleeve
                I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
                • Mar 2005
                • 16385

                #22
                right I am aware of this, but the experience that is motor sport is a much auditory as it visual. This requires some ( A LOT) DB that projects more than a dozen feet form the motors.... Seeing cars go by the flag stand going whirrrr sounding like the hard dive on lap top booting up will not cut it. Compared to 30+ 500+ HP ICE thundering by that shake the very earth they tread upon. I will take the latter please as thats the main reason to go to any kind of motor sports event, that and watching the skill on display when a missed shift can mean victory or defeat which is something massive on demand instant torque electric motors are going to effectively eliminate a lot of
                Originally posted by Fusion
                If a car is the epitome of freedom, than an electric car is house arrest with your wife titty fucking your next door neighbor.
                The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money. -Alexis de Tocqueville


                The Desire to Save Humanity is Always a False Front for the Urge to Rule it- H. L. Mencken

                Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants.
                William Pitt-

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                • QUKBMER
                  R3V OG
                  • Feb 2010
                  • 8178

                  #23
                  I tried watching the 24 hrs of Daytona with no sound this weekend,sorry it's just not the same.
                  Your signature picture has been removed since it contained the Photobucket "upgrade your account" image.

                  garage queen 91 bmw 325is / 1972 Chevy El Camino 355 sbc 450hp

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                  • gazellebeigem3
                    No R3VLimiter
                    • Jun 2005
                    • 3712

                    #24
                    Originally posted by R1dd1ck913
                    Have you ever seen this company? => https://www.youtube.com/user/evwestdotcom
                    They race an electric m3.
                    which weighs in at a sprightly 3800lbs lol

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                    • Jims5543
                      Member
                      • Dec 2014
                      • 62

                      #25
                      Being as there are some Ex-Military in this thread, think of the ramifications if electric cars took over.

                      Suddenly the M.E. would be irrelevant, it would be the next Africa, no one would care about them.

                      My motivation, especially in light of the current current events, is that Electric Car tech will make these exploding gasoline monsters relics. Some of us old fekkers will keep driving them because we like the noise the explosions make, but many will embrace the new technology.

                      Think of your grandparents with new electronics, that is how many in this thread look.

                      Electric Cars are coming, the battery tech is moving forward very fast, I know a guy on a Porsche BB who has a family member working on some Battery that is going to turn the industry on its ear once they perfect it (seems there are some cooling issues) once they figure it out, batteries are going to be the way to go.

                      I for one, for reasons stated initially, am all for it.
                      Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming "Wow! What a Ride! -Hunter S. Thompson

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                      • mrsleeve
                        I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
                        • Mar 2005
                        • 16385

                        #26
                        Another thing to consider is all the power generation and distrbution gird in this country. If you were to very quickly move all the energy needs of the transportation sector over on to the current grid and generation capacity.......... What do you think is going to happen when everyone gets home form work at 545 and plugs their car in to charge up in your average mid sized city of 250k people with our current generation and grid capacity.

                        not to mention the fact we are phasing out one of the most prolific fuels for power generation the same time demand may be going to heights we have never seen before, if your even close to being right.

                        I think we are going to be very old and gray or long dead before we see an end to hydrocarbons being a primary fuel source. Unless there is some massive break though Al La the Mr Fusion form Back to the Future II
                        Originally posted by Fusion
                        If a car is the epitome of freedom, than an electric car is house arrest with your wife titty fucking your next door neighbor.
                        The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money. -Alexis de Tocqueville


                        The Desire to Save Humanity is Always a False Front for the Urge to Rule it- H. L. Mencken

                        Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants.
                        William Pitt-

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                        • QUKBMER
                          R3V OG
                          • Feb 2010
                          • 8178

                          #27
                          Yes ^^^^ :ST1G:
                          Your signature picture has been removed since it contained the Photobucket "upgrade your account" image.

                          garage queen 91 bmw 325is / 1972 Chevy El Camino 355 sbc 450hp

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                          • decay
                            R3V Elite
                            • Oct 2003
                            • 5637

                            #28
                            Originally posted by gazellebeigem3
                            which weighs in at a sprightly 3800lbs lol
                            fine. this one runs ten and a half flat in the quarter and weighs close to what your rallyX car does. also, it was built by a bunch of high school kids. happy?

                            Everyone loves the Tesla P85D. Two motors. Lots of instant electric torque. Room to terrify the whole family. But you know what's cooler? A 1980s Porsche. That's right. This Porsche 944 is faster than everyone's favorite modern tech wonderboy.
                            past:
                            1989 325is (learner shitbox)
                            1986 325e (turbo dorito)
                            1991 318ic (5-lug ITB)
                            1985 323i baur
                            current:
                            1995 M3 (suspension, 17x9/255-40, borla)

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                            • Drew325is
                              E30 Addict
                              • Oct 2004
                              • 520

                              #29
                              Originally posted by mrsleeve
                              Another thing to consider is all the power generation and distrbution gird in this country. If you were to very quickly move all the energy needs of the transportation sector over on to the current grid and generation capacity.......... What do you think is going to happen when everyone gets home form work at 545 and plugs their car in to charge up in your average mid sized city of 250k people with our current generation and grid capacity.

                              not to mention the fact we are phasing out one of the most prolific fuels for power generation the same time demand may be going to heights we have never seen before, if your even close to being right.

                              I think we are going to be very old and gray or long dead before we see an end to hydrocarbons being a primary fuel source. Unless there is some massive break though Al La the Mr Fusion form Back to the Future II
                              I don't disagree that hydrocarbons will remain for a long time, but the charging of EV's "after work" is actually likely to be a good thing for power supply...in the case of coal-powered production, for example, it's highly beneficial to maintain a constant demand on the grid. At the moment this doesn't happen, as demand declines significantly off-peak (at night). There are then significant inefficiencies in increasing supply from the power station as demand increases during the day. So maintaining high demand through the off-peak period with charging EV's would actually improve the efficiency of power stations. In fact there are some interesting figures on how many EV's could be powered at no additional energy cost just by smoothing out the demand on power stations (i.e. charging EV's instead of wasting energy through the dips and peaks in supply).

                              It's also pretty unlikely that the only time EV's would charge is after work...many would charge during the day at work. So it'd be pretty unlikely the grid would be shocked at any point with demand.

                              EV's aren't perfect, yet(?), but I think it's getting harder and harder to discredit the potential and the rate of improvement.

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                              • TimbyMaTombo
                                E30 Addict
                                • Jul 2012
                                • 413

                                #30
                                What about Hydrogen Fuel Cells? It looked very promising a few years ago and now you hear nothing about it. It would lower the dependence on coal-produced power that will be used to charge the EVs and instead of having to charge it for hours before you can use it, you can just refill it like normal gas.

                                Or how about this?

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