#BellLetsTalk #EndTheStigma #MentalHealth

[BraveUlysses]

Sleeve, you're a fuckin idiot

[Vincent Brick]

I don't even know what to say except that I wish America cared enough about those suffering from mental illness for such a major organization to try and turn things in a better direction here. Its hard enough for a middle-class American with a decent income to get access to mental health care, and virtually impossible if you are low income. In San Diego the only option for low income individuals is a for-profit feeder for county funds the pharmaceutical industry, they literally will not help you unless you take antidepressants/anti-psychotics, even if depression or psychosis is not what you are seeking help for. It is ridiculous and shameful, the only way you get help in America is if you can make someone else money. Yay extremist capitalism.

[E30 Wagen]

^ I can't wait to read mrsleeve's incoherent response to that.

[Navarone]

Depression isn't just being a little sad, it's chronic and overwhelming, and real people suffer from it. I agree there is an over abundance of medication flooding out from big pharma for just about any excuse people can make up, but blanketing the real sufferers with the "buck up little buddy" when they actually need to be chemically balanced is ignorant and insensitive. Would you treat a broken leg with "just walk it off, wimp!"?

Go after the pill mills, I agree, that's bullshit that they profit off the drug addiction of otherwise decent people. Go after shady doctors and crappy psychiatrists that hand it out like candy. Don't go after people actually suffering or that are on the spectrum, the people with actual depression or autism that are at risk of harming themselves or others.

I grew up in the 90's when ADHD was the trendy new affliction and they had me on all that shit when I was a kid, but I would have been better off with better parental and educational structure than being doped up on a cocktail of crap. They made all kinds of shitty mistakes raising kids throughout history. I was testing out of all my school work and getting bored and causing trouble, then I was medicated and I was sent to shitty continuation schools with ghetto thugs and gang bangers instead of gifted and talented classes where I could kick ass.

Getting yourself out of depression is like climbing a fucking mountain with no shoes, on glass, dragging a dead body. If someone legitimately needs a little help from medication and therapy and can be a healthy member of society then I'm all fucking for it.

[anabolice30]

^I agree. Just how autism diagnosing is skyrocketing. Everyone thinks their kid has autism when in reality they probably never learned how to interact properly because you gave them their first tablet at 12 months. Not that I think autism isn't real, it's just like how AHD was in the 90s, and bi-polar disorder in the early 2000s. It's trendy. But on OP's point I think this campaign is fantastic.

[mrsleeve]

Wow burnsy you have been depressed before....... WHO THE FUCK HAS NOT been at some point in their life. Felling down in the dumps and sad for a while is a NORMAL part of everyone's life somewhere along the line. Suck it up nancy and deal with your shit move and on with . Sorry I dont think of depression as an "illness" (unless your trying to harm your self, or others). In need of lots of funding to "diagnose and treat" if you need to talk to a therapist to give you an atta-boy its not your fault, then so be it some people need a little professional help along the line, most reasonable people know when this may be necessary Though you maybe right there is a bit of a stigma attached to talking to a shrink twice a week for 200 bucks an hour .

I like how you mention anxiety and depression my wifes family is the poster family for anxious and depressed, social phobic people on the planet. Yet they seem to deal with it and hold good jobs, normal hobbies, and deal with their issues in their own ways, and have been upstanding productive members of society for 60+ years all with out the "help" modern medicine or copious amounts of booze or "other" substances. Yet you would advocate that these good quiet keep to them selves type of people need help and should be fixed even though they dont want or really need your help to get by in life.......

When you say mental illness treatment I dont think depression, A.D.D. and similar minor afflictions out there need to be dealt with in a fashion similar to my above statement. Those seem to be getting plenty of attention as is (at least here is the states ) when every 3rd kid is on Ritalin ect.. to make them sit still. General Practitioners hand out scrips for anti-depressants like a pezz dispenser to anyone that says I feel sad and depressed that comes into their office.....

When you say mental illness that needs more funding for diagnoses and treatment I am thinking Schizo, and other similar conditions that pose a danger to society in general or them selves... Which we dont have the facilities to house and handle them anymore since many were shuttered in the 50's-70's so those people have been left out in the cold for society and the prison system to deal with when they get in trouble...


Seems to me in the last few decades and especially the last 5-10 years there has been a HUGE push broaden the "definition" mental illness and get people onto treatment for it. I mean you see the adds on TV all the time, "feel sad here have your doc prescribe this little pill and all your troubles will go away"..... Is that what you all really want is for everyone to be on some kind of mood altering substance 24/7 for much of their lives for one thing or another..........

[cale]

I think sleeves "love it when that happens" is his way of saying successful trolling was a success.

[CorvallisBMW]

Yep. We don't lump all physical illnesses in to the same category and treatment regimens, so why should we do the same for mental illness? We look at "mental illness" as a monolithic, uniform, yet somehow incurable problem. That's what leads simpletons like sleeve to throw out blanket suggestions like asylums. That's like suggesting hospice care for everyone with a physical illness, whether it's a common cold or terminal brain cancer. It's shameful.

[quickervicar]

^ Exactly. We need to diagnose & treat appropriately.

[Mr. Burns]

Atm, what are some realistic solutions? I live in San Diego which has one of the highest homeless populations in the country and whom many have mental illnesses. I'd rather have them in an "asylum" than on the streets no? Or was it his phrasing?

neither-

I suppose there are varying degrees of mental illness.

I've suffered from one- depression.
in no time had I needed to be institutionalized due to it, however some do if they are under suicide watch or similar (for depression)

for those who do suffer from a mental health issue who are letsay, schizophrenic and are not capable of reliably taking their medication in order to remain stable than yes. Same would go for diagnosed psychopaths of a violent nature. Pedophiles and the like.

Mental health issues can fall under the same umbrella as someone who suffer from anxiety issues.

it's a very rich tapestry, and a very broad spectrum in which there needs to me more attention and funds paid forward to those who NEED and SEEK the help.

again, IMO.

[Dozyproductions]

Atm, what are some realistic solutions? I live in San Diego which has one of the highest homeless populations in the country and whom many have mental illnesses. I'd rather have them in an "asylum" than on the streets no? Or was it his phrasing?

[CorvallisBMW]

Are you surprised? lol

[Mr. Burns]

we could just reopen/start the asylums again, rather than dump all those that are a few fries short of a fun meal on the rest of society at large with little to no supervision.

Neat idea and way to raise funds though.

wowwwwwwwwwwwwwwww.

you're even more ignorant than you let on.

[mrsleeve]

I love when that happens ..................

[CorvallisBMW]

Because that's what we do with physically sick people, you know, dump them in to an asylum for the rest of their lives :loco: