Flint Michigan poisoned water supply (not spam)

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  • mrsleeve
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    You have any idea how many lead water services I replaced in older parts of Lansing, Kzoo, Battle Creek, Jackson and though I never saw one my self I know there are still a few in A2 when I lived in MI and worked for a decade putting in municipal water and sewer systems. 6-8 a day for about a 100 days a year, for 5-6 years you do the math and that was just one crew working on them where new water main was put in. I know there were 10's of thousands left all over the state when I left in 06.

    The rust in the water in the images is from the inside of the old (and new) Cast iron water mains, and is being dissolved by the new water supply as stated above this likely includes much of the lead joint water main put in pre WWII.

    . But I would like to point out some things Mr Moore (as usual has gotten wrong to make his point) The water in lake Huron clean is a bit of a stretch. Thing is though Detroit does not get its water from there. Its intakes are on the St Clair River and Lake St Clair ( I used to fish those lakes theSt.Clair system is one of, if not the best muskie fishery in the world) I never ate more than 2 fish a year form those waters they are hardly clean.... Cleaner than the Flint river for sure though not making that argument. Just pointing out that the St Clair system is far more polluted than say Huron is in general.....

    I agree it needs to be fixed, and the system flushed, and made safe again, if the Gov is Culpable then by all means charges should be filed. But I dont think the case can be made to lynch the man for trying to get people in place to balance the budget, ignoring test results and ignoring other issues on the other hand can be suitable cause .

    Its a crying shame what is happening there and I searching for those emails now. As a former state resident with family still there I want see some of these things.

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  • graveshaker
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    That's what happens when you put a multimillionaire business man in public office. He runs the state like a business with little regard to human life.
    Last edited by graveshaker; 01-26-2016, 05:34 AM.

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  • Exodus_2pt0
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    Such bullshit. It's ridiculous how cash is put at a higher value than life.

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  • Das Delfin
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    That's terrible. I can't help but notice the irony in that they tried saving money and are going to end up paying for all these people's medical bills not to mention replacing an entire city's water system.. you'd figure they would have seen "contaminated water" as a red flag

    I can't believe idiots like this are in power. We need more intelligent people to run for office. Maybe the children of the baby boom will eventually out number the Strom Thurmonds of the world

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  • Flint Michigan poisoned water supply (not spam)

    Hello all, I'm sure many of you by now have heard of the problem regarding Flint Michigan horrible water issue. Living just 40 miles north of Flint the problem hits home. This has been an on going issue for quite some time now.
    In case you haven't heard, Governor Rick Snyder appointed a deputy Mayor to oversee Flint financial crisis. One cost saving venture was to stop buying water from Detroit who gets it's water from the Great lakes (one of the cleanest water supplies in the world) and pipe in to Flint's own inland river. The same river that chemical plants and General Motors were accused of dumping toxic waste for years. Switching to this water supply would have saved Flint money. As soon as the switch was made, Flint residents noticed something was not right with the water. After many town hall meetings Governor Snyder promised the water was safe to drink but in reality he knew all along the water had high amounts of lead. The people of Flint drank, bathed and cooked with this toxic water for over a year. The combination of toxic water and the use of chemicals to treat the tainted water ate the lining off the pipes which in turn pumped debris and lead into everyone homes. There are countless reports of new lead poising cases popping up everyday with Flint children. Many have developed horrible skin rashes due to the tainted water. Flint Michigan is now like a third world country in regards to bathing and using bottled water to everything.
    Governor Snyder was persuaded to released all emails dating back two years that reveals the ugly truth.

    Now the whole country is aware and boat loads of bottled water is being donated but this is a temporary fix. Can you imagine not being able to use water in your entire city?
















    And Michael Moore (Flint native) sums it up with a letter to the Governor

    Dear Governor Snyder:
    Thanks to you, sir, and the premeditated actions of your administrators, you have effectively poisoned, not just some, but apparently ALL of the children in my hometown of Flint, Michigan.
    And for that, you have to go to jail.
    To poison all the children in an historic American city is no small feat. Even international terrorist organizations haven't figured out yet how to do something on a magnitude like this.
    But you did. Your staff and others knew that the water in the Flint River was poison -- but you decided that taking over the city and "cutting costs" to "balance the budget" was more important than the people's health (not to mention their democratic rights to elect their own leaders). So you cut off the clean, fresh glacial lake water of Lake Huron that the citizens of Flint (including myself) had been drinking for decades and, instead, made them drink water from the industrial cesspool we call the Flint River -- a body of "water" where toxins from a dozen General Motors and DuPont factories have been dumped for over a hundred years. And then you decided to put a chemical in this water to "clean" it -- which only ended up stripping the lead off of Flint's aging water pipes, placing that lead in the water and sending it straight into people's taps. Your callous -- and reckless (btw, "reckless" doesn't get you a pass; a reckless driver who kills a child, still goes to jail) -- decision to do this has now, as revealed by the city's top medical facility, caused "irreversible brain damage" in Flint's children, not to mention other bodily damage to all of Flint's adults. Here's how bad it is: Even GM won't let the auto parts they use in building cars touch the Flint water because that water "corrodes" them (link). This is a company that won't even fix an ignition switch after they've discovered it's already killed dozens of people. THAT's how bad the situation is. Even GM thinks you're the devil.
    Maybe you don't understand the science behind this. Lead, in water -- now, bear with me, this involves a science lesson and you belong to the anti-science party, the one that believes there's not a climate problem and that Adam and Eve rode on dinosaurs 6,000 years ago. Lead is toxic to the human body. There's no way to fully eliminate it once it's in your system, and children are the most damaged by it.
    By taking away the city's clean drinking water in order to "cut costs," and then switching the city's water supply to Flint River water, you have allowed massively unsafe levels of pollutants and lead into the water that travels in to everyone's home. Every Flint resident is trapped by this environmental nightmare which you, Governor, have created.
    Like any real criminal, when you were confronted with the truth (by the EPA and other leading water experts across America), you denied what you did. Even worse, you decided to mock your accusers and their findings. As I said, I know you don't like to believe in a lot of science (after all, you used to run Gateway Computers, and that, really, is all anyone needs to know about you), but this time the science has caught up with you -- and this time, I hope, it's going to convict you.
    The facts are all there, Mr. Snyder. Every agency involved in this scheme reported directly to you. The children of Flint didn't have a choice as to whether or not they were going to get to drink clean water. But soon it will be your turn to not have that choice about which water you'll be drinking. Because by this time next year, if there is an ounce of justice left in this land, the water you'll be drinking will be served to you from a tap inside Jackson Prison.
    I am calling upon my fellow Michiganders -- and seekers of justice everywhere -- to petition U.S. Attorney General Loretta Lynch, asking her to arrest you for corruption and assault (i.e., the physical assault you committed against the children of Flint when you knowingly poisoned them).
    Yesterday, the federal prosecutor in Flint, after many of us had called for months for this action, finally opened up an investigation into the matter (link). Now we need your arrest, prosecution and conviction.
    And who will be cheering on that day when you are fitted with a bright orange jumpsuit? The poor and minority communities of Michigan who've endured your dictatorial firing of their mayors and school boards so you could place your business friends in charge of their mostly-black cities. They know you never would have done this to a wealthy white suburb.
    I welcome all to look at the appalling facts of this case, which have been reported brilliantly here, here, and especially here by the great Rachel Maddow. Thank you, Rachel, for caring so deeply when the rest of the national television media didn't.
    I'm asking everyone who agrees with me to sign on to this petition and call for your arrest, Governor Snyder. You are not allowed to run amok in my hometown like you have done. The children whom you have poisoned have to endure a life of pain and lower IQ's from your actions. You have destroyed a generation of children -- and for that, you must pay.
    It is time for you to go to prison. Out of mercy, I'll ask that you have in your cell your own personal Gateway computer.
    Sincerely,
    Michael Moore
    Flint native
    Michigan resident and voter
    P.S. For everyone wanting to sign on to this petition calling for the IMMEDIATE resignation of Governor Snyder AND for the FBI to arrest him, please sign the petition petition below...
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