Upcoming extradition to USA of marijuana 'kingpin'

[LINUS]

http://www.cannabisculture.com/articles/4639.html


Very real and upcoming. What a joke. We finally got it right with prioritizing marijuana police calls as least important, but we still have a long way to go.

Is this the best the DEA has to do with their time? What happened to "Ackbar the Terrorist" that they always show in commercials here in the US when they show a where your money goes when you buy a dime bag?

I don't mean ANY disrespect to Middle Easterners, but that's how our government tries to scare you out of buying weed. Pathetic.

I know we probably will never see the day of total decriminalization, but I really think it's about time for a revolution. Our government oversteps its' intended role far too much.

I don't smoke, but I wouldn't deny someone else the right to. Next thing you know, they'll come around and round up all your guns, or something equally overboard of what the founding fathers intended.

I know we did this last month, but this article, and the links from it involving the extradition of these 3 got me fired up again.

[JPL]

i agree that mary jane should be legalized as long as you're not driving or making an ass out of yourself in public.

[Jand3rson]

Oh jesus, here we go... :roll:

[joshh]

The ONLY reason MJ isn't legal is because it's a "weed" and grows like it. They couldn't control it or tax it like they would like to.
If cigarettes are legal and alcohol is legal...why not. Seriously, look how many people are killed (innocent people) by drunk drivers every year. You'd just have to enforce the law just like we do with DUI...although that in itself is a joke.
And i don't even smoke MJ.

[LINUS]

Oh jesus, here we go... :roll:

I know, I know.....but I just got fired up. We've had worse crap here in the last couple weeks, you know I'm right.

[AdironRider]

They very easily could control and tax the shit out of it. By legalizing and regulating the crap out of it there would be no profit in trying to grow and sell privately, the local growers would be undercut drastically and have no business. Think how there a no local guys selling cheap cigarettes, the same would apply. The big tobacco companies already have their product lines copyrighted, they just need to ok to set up shop.

I dont see your point on how they treat DUI's as a joke. I know of noone who has thought it was a joke after they got nabbed.

Ive already expressed my views on legalization many times here, and at some point in time I see at least something being done towards decriminalization. However, there are to many people out there who arent educated or experienced on the effects of MJ, and in turn will always think its the demon weed or something along those lines.

This isnt to say that weed doesnt have its drawbacks. Ive seen plenty of people progress down a road to other drugs from weed, and Ive seen plenty of people lose all their motivation as well. How that differs from alcoholism and the effects that can have on a person, well how do you debate that? Everyone reacts differently.

[Jand3rson]

I know, I know.....but I just got fired up. We've had worse crap here in the last couple weeks, you know I'm right.

It wasn't in referrence to your post, it was to JPL's comment about legalizing it. I can't stand these "weed should be legalized" threads.

[LINUS]

It wasn't in referrence to your post, it was to JPL's comment about legalizing it. I can't stand these "weed should be legalized" threads.

Well, I hate to tell you, but I think it should uh, that is, umm, well - that it should be legal. At least give up the fight. Call off the whole thing. Pot is a waste of time and resources in our government.

I'm really more of a "small government" person and "freedom of individual rights" person than anything else.

If I don't stand up for someone else, I can't expect them to stick up for me when "big government" wants to do a gun roundup.

For me, if people can play cool, still leave all drug testing in place if employment requires, and don't do stupid things - then it's an invasion of personal privacy if government gets involved with Uncle Hippie because he likes a joint in the evening.

I'm amazed that the likelyhood of Canada surrendering these people. No wonder Canadians hate us, and that was before this crap.

I think the line between Homeland Security and the DEA is a fuzzy one.

And intrusion in peoples lives wasn't what our government was set up to be.

Pot is an issue, I'm far more concerned with the way our government intrudes.

Time for a revolution?

If you really want to see me get fired up on our government, let's talk about the way our Border Patrol treats Mexicans at the border. I hate where my tax money goes. I'll leave it at that for now.

[AdironRider]

It wasn't in referrence to your post, it was to JPL's comment about legalizing it. I can't stand these "weed should be legalized" threads.

Is that because your against it or because of how they usually turn out? Ill concede that these threads always turn into the exact reason as to why it will never get legalized (aka the one last year that got locked because it started to turn into a how to buy drugs thread).

[joshh]

They very easily could control and tax the shit out of it. By legalizing and regulating the crap out of it there would be no profit in trying to grow and sell privately, the local growers would be undercut drastically and have no business. Think how there a no local guys selling cheap cigarettes, the same would apply. The big tobacco companies already have their product lines copyrighted, they just need to ok to set up shop.

I dont see your point on how they treat DUI's as a joke. I know of noone who has thought it was a joke after they got nabbed.

Ive already expressed my views on legalization many times here, and at some point in time I see at least something being done towards decriminalization. However, there are to many people out there who arent educated or experienced on the effects of MJ, and in turn will always think its the demon weed or something along those lines.

This isnt to say that weed doesnt have its drawbacks. Ive seen plenty of people progress down a road to other drugs from weed, and Ive seen plenty of people lose all their motivation as well. How that differs from alcoholism and the effects that can have on a person, well how do you debate that? Everyone reacts differently.

How are they possibly going to control it when anyone can grow it in their house or even back yard in some states?? Growing enforcement will go out the window as soon as they legalize it. It already is...
There are two problems with the DUI laws. One is that they are enforced by many cops who are unfair about some situations. IE. trying to bust the person even if they have not been drinking. I've seen this more than once. They keep testing the person and have them do 3-4 breath tests.
The other is the laws are one thing, the enforcement is another. Most of the time you have to be caught two times up here before they take your licence away. That is a joke.

You can't agrue AT ALL about the fact that weed does impair ones "normal" ability to do many things whether it be the persons reaction time, thought proccess, physical motions or whatever. Just as speed does the same but in a different way. DUI already applies to MJ as well.

[AdironRider]

How are they possibly going to control it when anyone can grow it in their house or even back yard in some states?? Growing enforcement will go out the window as soon as they legalize it. It already is....

Uhhh, are you kidding? Its simple economics. In reality it is very expensive and labor intensive to grow weed effectively and cheaply for your own personal use. Sure you can toss a couple seeds out in your backyard, but that more often than not is not going to work. You obviously missed my point about how there arent people growing their own tobacco, etc. Think about it. If the govt was put in charge, or private corps for that matter, they would be able to produce on such a large scale that they would be able to produce, harvest, package, distribute, and ultimately tax the stuff while still getting it out to the consumer for nowhere near as much money as it costs now. Thats why it will not be a worry about the casual home grower, much like cigarette companies dont lose sleep over some cheap smoker growing their own tobacco.

[joshh]

LOl, growing is as hard as growing a veggie garden but less weeding. One could easily grow more than enough for one household as long as you have the right space and weather.
"Simlpe economics", economics isn't always simple. The price hasn't change a bit even though Medicinal MJ is now legal. And many more people are now growing it legally. Economics would say the price should have dropped yet it has not.
Why would a company mass producing it lower the prices (by much) when they know people are currently buying billions of dollars worth right now for that price.

I know exactly what you're saying, I just disagree.

[JPL]

economics is simple at least on the macro end of it. the only thing that complicates it is the government. now keep this thread alive until Josh's head explodes.

[joshh]

economics is simple at least on the macro end of it. the only thing that complicates it is the government. now keep this thread alive until Josh's head explodes.

LMAO, I actually don't have a problem with this level of drugs as long as it doesn't kill people. I have a much worse opinion of alcohol than I do MJ.

[Jand3rson]

Is that because your against it or because of how they usually turn out? Ill concede that these threads always turn into the exact reason as to why it will never get legalized (aka the one last year that got locked because it started to turn into a how to buy drugs thread).

I hate them because of how they turn out. I don't smoke weed, and never have. But I'm all for legalzing it.