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[Firestorm]

money = happiness. that is all.

[JGood]

One question for the "believers": Say at the end of life, you are wrong. There's nothing. What would you say (obviously you couldn't talk, but you know what I mean)? Would you admit you spent your entire life "serving" someone who never existed? I know you don't believe this will happen, but what if it does? Just humor me.

Please take this question seriously, I really want to know the answer, no harm is intended with the question, I'm just curious.

I'll tell you, if I go to hell, I will not be pissed, because I don't want to live my life for someone else anyway. If I have to live that way just kill me now.

[JGood]

The religious drive becomes more evident when people turn 70, when they see they are closer to the grave they NEED a heaven to go to :)

Thanks for driving the point home. It's funny, you can live your life doing whatever you want, at the end of which you can "truly find god" and go to heaven. Must be nice to have a crutch so you can fuck up throughout your life, but know, in the end, it will all be OK.

I spent a long time going to church, at the end of which I told everyone to piss off. It's fucking highway robbery. There's more money thrown towards the church system then you can shake a dick at. I couldn't believe it, because there's nothing I can see or feel. And yes, I do need that to believe it. I grew out of it just like santa clause and the easter bunny. My entire family is still religious, but the way they live their life is NO indication. I consider myself to have MUCH higher standards and morals. BUT, since they go to church, they will go to heaven and I'll go to hell.



And for the record, I do not have any idea how the earth was created (nor do any of you). I don't know if it was by a supreme being, some natural force, or whatever. Nor do I care - we don't know and will not know during my lifetime, so why waste my time guessing? You can not say you know it's this way or know it's that way - you have a belief, that's it. There are no facts. So quit dragging others down and making stupid comments based on your beliefs. And I'm not a hypocrite, my above remarks are observations.

[YAN-3]

schmidty good to hear you say that brother!

[schmidty]

Dude, 8 years ago I couldn't have imagined what my life is like now

Then: Raging with my friends, meeting chicks, drinking, getting high.

Now: Jesus, Wife, Family, Friends, Work, school, BMWs.

The 'Then' was cool for about five years and then my kick ass coke habit ruined my life. No job, no friends, no place to live, two OD's, DUI w/possession... it sucked really bad. Way too much drama, regret, sadness and pain. I prolly should have had a stroke or a heart attack due to how much dope I was doing. At my most recent physical, my MD told me that I have 'the heart of a marathon runner'. Miracles never cease.

Four years of AA/NA, In-patient rehab, out-patient rehab, cold turkey, white knuckling, nothing worked until I remembered some scripture verses. My parents and a whole bunch of other people were praying for me, and the Lord showed mercy upon this messed up individual and set me on a path to recovery. Within a year of being Born Again, I finished school and was dating my soon to be wife. Within two years of that, I had a really good job, was married to the best woman the Lord has created, bought a condo, and was clean and sober. And happy... prolly the only real happiness I had ever felt.

You ever wonder why people that have everything (pro athletes, entertainers, business tycoons, etc) are so messed up? It's because they have realized that money and fame cannot bring happiness. Money can provide temp fixes in the form of sex, drugs and alcohol, but the rich and famous are still killing themselves over the void in their lives. Only Jesus Christ can fill the void. He did it for me, He can do it for anyone who truly seeks Him.

wow, it's really great to hear your story and that you have turned your life around!!

A little over a year ago I met my fiancee and she introduced me to God and I have never been happier. Contrary to what equate975 said I think it is the first time I have felt true happiness, as opposed to 'fake' happiness in money, possessions, pride, and other worldly things.

[markseven]

Wow, that was disgusting. They couldn't have picked a less retarded song? lol

All I can think of is the people who made it, I CANT imagine going through life like that, a total bible and family freak. There was some deal on TV about big families or something and there was this one family that was so religious and "proper" it made me want to puke. Fake happiness is the most disgusting thing ever.

Dude, 8 years ago I couldn't have imagined what my life is like now

Then: Raging with my friends, meeting chicks, drinking, getting high.

Now: Jesus, Wife, Family, Friends, Work, school, BMWs.

The 'Then' was cool for about five years and then my kick ass coke habit ruined my life. No job, no friends, no place to live, two OD's, DUI w/possession... it sucked really bad. Way too much drama, regret, sadness and pain. I prolly should have had a stroke or a heart attack due to how much dope I was doing. At my most recent physical, my MD told me that I have 'the heart of a marathon runner'. Miracles never cease.

Four years of AA/NA, In-patient rehab, out-patient rehab, cold turkey, white knuckling, nothing worked until I remembered some scripture verses. My parents and a whole bunch of other people were praying for me, and the Lord showed mercy upon this messed up individual and set me on a path to recovery. Within a year of being Born Again, I finished school and was dating my soon to be wife. Within two years of that, I had a really good job, was married to the best woman the Lord has created, bought a condo, and was clean and sober. And happy... prolly the only real happiness I had ever felt.

You ever wonder why people that have everything (pro athletes, entertainers, business tycoons, etc) are so messed up? It's because they have realized that money and fame cannot bring happiness. Money can provide temp fixes in the form of sex, drugs and alcohol, but the rich and famous are still killing themselves over the void in their lives. Only Jesus Christ can fill the void. He did it for me, He can do it for anyone who truly seeks Him.

[Maluco]

atheists are one more of God's creations, put here on earth for our amusement.

I have to say, to me and I imagine to the majority of those in the Faith, there is absolutely nothing amusing about someone who does not have God in their life.

[ivo316]

I think he's entitled to his opinion, everybody is, but the problem is that most people defend everybody's right to their opinion until it diverges too much from their's.

I am a christian, but if someone wishes to tell me God does not exist, I'll listen and will not get pissed, atheists are one more of God's creations, put here on earth for our amusement. ;)

The religious drive becomes more evident when people turn 70, when they see they are closer to the grave they NEED a heaven to go to :)

But, if someone says God does not exist, or whatever, I will be the first to defend their right to say so. 8)

[bilson]

Kind of off topic, but there are some Christian rock bands that rock pretty fucking hard. I had no idea they were Christian rock until I asked my friend. It's weird when it's almost metal-ish, but they're talking about God, lol.

http://myspace.com/withbloodcomescleansing

[equate975]

Wow, that was disgusting. They couldn't have picked a less retarded song? lol

All I can think of is the people who made it, I CANT imagine going through life like that, a total bible and family freak. There was some deal on TV about big families or something and there was this one family that was so religious and "proper" it made me want to puke. Fake happiness is the most disgusting thing ever.

[aschmidt]

SPAM. SPAM. SPAM.

Damn. Those Christians started Christian Rock to try to look cool, now they have Christian Rap, and they spam it all over. I hate religions. They make people do stupid things. Spamming included.

Kind of off topic, but there are some Christian rock bands that rock pretty fucking hard. I had no idea they were Christian rock until I asked my friend. It's weird when it's almost metal-ish, but they're talking about God, lol.

[1991 318is]

If my ass is in the mose cone of a lunbar orbiter, I want a logical positivist plotting the return trajectory. Some one that thinks it's all relative.
I thought it hilarious that the one about the atheist says it's so because it's in the Bible. The world is only 6,000 years old - margin of error +- 2,000 years. Does an infallible being need a margin of error?

[Maluco]

Come on guys. Cheer up. Life is to short to go into religious crap...

LOL.... What kind of remark is that?

Look at the past millenium and observe how humanity has been oppressed by biggots: Inquisition, Crusades. Witches of Salem. Jewish extermination by Catholics. Now don't tell me that Occidental religions are good to us.

"Religion" didn't do those things, those in position of power and authority did those things in the name of religion.

Distortion is too much of a simple and unsuccessful manner at which to approach such a heavy topic/arguement/conversation. .

[Maluco]

Actually religion has nothing to do with it. You will find that many of these crazy zelots were doing stupider things BEFORE they found religion. They just happened to find another vehicle to promote their stupidity.

That is extremely well stated.

With that being said, they also create another vehicle for people to further knock religion. But then again how can one use a good religious character/example to defame it?

[markseven]

Rock on, man.

Anyone who chooses what company they will purchase car parts from due to a personal religious opinion is a fucking idiot.

That is all.

Got to have convictions. Standards.