Think it's racist to say...?

[chucko]

This is the United States of America. English and European classical culture have never had any significant impact here. Our culture is derivative of our folk culture. It is the culture of the masses and not the artistic and aesthetic elite. Country music, blues, jazz and their contemporary manifestations are the dominant influences. It's the culture of radio and TV. English culture is the culture of England and even that's dead. So, should the Hispanics cop to Nashville or the ghetto? Look at your CD collection. There's your culture!
Most of my friends from foreign countries learned English from rock and roll records if they're my age and from rap if younger. Welcome to America, bitches and ho's!

I feel sorry for you if you learn english from rap...you really won't be able to function outside of the ghetto.

[chucko]

#1 whos going to do backbreaking labor for 10-14 hours a day for minimum wage? A teenager? no. NO ONE wants those jobs.
Mariano

I agree with much of what you've said in this post, but those jobs you're talking about have traditionally been worked by the descendants of Africans brought over to work as slaves, who are still the poorest people in this country. They are really the ones who have been displaced by this activity. It's true that not many people want these jobs, but as bad as it is, it's still better than not having any job and being poor and broke.

[der affe]

Wenn Sie im Amerika leben, lernen Sie nur zu ficken, Englisch zu sprechen! :hitler:

Ok - so....

I'm glad I started this post .. 400 people looked at it. And I call that a good thing.

I'll just end with this.

"Have some class" - in any language - have class. Maybe then I'm a "class racist"...

If I went to Japan, I would take care of my feet, knowing I'd end up asking to take off my shoes. If I went to Switzerland and invited to someone's house for dinner, I'd be on time. If I moved to Italy, I’d buy a bottle of wine on a Sunday afternoon for a party.

I just don't see that today...

Nuff said. Anything else is just excuses...

...

This is a fantastic post, and sums up the idea perfectly.

[uofom3]

I bet my balls that there would be another reason to single them out. Dont be naive. Im not getting involved in this conversation. I seriously cannot believe there are still people out there who think some of the things that have been said here. But whatever.


Mariano

I wouldn't have taken it as far as assimilation into the "culture" - I think it's the language barrier that is the real problem. I'm not calling you out Mariano, I'm just saying - if you break the language barrier look what happens:
-Education is easier
-Education=better employment
-Better employment = more money = reduced crime and poverty in that community
-Finally, it helps break the cycle of generational poverty in the immigrant community

All of this is not only better for the country, but for these people as well. I do not have a statistic to tell how many immigrants attempt to learn the language to a complete capacity vs. the ones that do not, but I can tell you that people who have clearly immigragted to my area of the country and are learning/have learned the language are doing much, much better than those that have not. Getting here should be considdered the dangerous/risky/hard part. Learning to speak the language should be easy compared to that... right?

We do not need to lower of the lower class to keep this country going. That's a joke. You might pay $1.22 for a head of lettuce that used to cost $1.00.....big fucking whoop.

I say immigants have to speak the language BEFORE they are allowed to enter the other country.

I agree with this. I think I need to join the minute men, oh, and the NRA

[Mystikal]

I'm still laughing at the majority of the views on here (save for Mariano, and a few others).

I'll go back to speaking Canadian in my apparently slave-influenced culture now.

Jay

[george graves]

Ok - so....

I'm glad I started this post .. 400 people looked at it. And I call that a good thing.

I'll just end with this.

"Have some class" - in any language - have class. Maybe then I'm a "class racist"...

If I went to Japan, I would take care of my feet, knowing I'd end up asking to take off my shoes. If I went to Switzerland and invited to someone's house for dinner, I'd be on time. If I moved to Italy, I’d buy a bottle of wine on a Sunday afternoon for a party.

I just don't see that today...

Nuff said. Anything else is just excuses...

...

[White Nightmare]

I say immigants have to speak the language BEFORE they are allowed to enter the other country.

Totally agree.

[joshh]

We do not need to lower of the lower class to keep this country going. That's a joke. You might pay $1.22 for a head of lettuce that used to cost $1.00.....big fucking whoop.

I say immigants have to speak the language BEFORE they are allowed to enter the other country.

[808BMW]

I work and do payrolls for the garment industry in Los Angeles. Probably the biggest hotbed of said activity and said industry. These people get their State and Federal withholdings taken out of their taxes along with social security, but will never see the benefits (rightly so). Im not saying they should get the benefits, Im saying this to prove a point that in no way are they leaches. Anything that requires a social security number, they cant get. People say they take our jobs. #1 whos going to do backbreaking labor for 10-14 hours a day for minimum wage? A teenager? no. NO ONE wants those jobs. #2 We actually take THEIR jobs in thir countries when we make their farmers obsolete due to us continuing to subsidize our farms and tax foreign goods to keep our inferior industries afloat and making money for the shotcallers.

Read up on our nations policies and then talk, kiddies. Dont just listen to the controversial bullshit media. Do some homework before you marginalize a whole population of people who make ALL of our lives easier.


Mariano

A lot of those minimum wage jobs would be paying more than minimum wage if the hispanic guy wasn't there to do it. It drives down the market for other people already in the business. My friend is a painter from California and he said it's almost impossible to find a job there, because they'd rather pay a mexican guy minimum wage to do it.

Out here minimum wage is $7 and every job starts at $10. McDonalds, BK, etc. all pay $10 starting for any shift, and thats because nobody is willing to work there, so the base pay must come up.

I good rock wall will cost $17-$20/sq. ft. but then guy down the street with 10 mexicans working for him will bid $14, and he'll get the job.

Just because they're paying taxes with no benefits doesn't make it right. I pay taxes yet I can't drink, can't get my CDL, can't get a rental car, can't get a hotel, I can't even sign for my own damn packages at UPS, all because I'm not 21 yet. I'm a full US citizen and pay out the ass, can get busted for anything the government wants to pin on me, yet I still don't get the same rights as everyone else.



I'm trying not to say this from the typical "The world should be like us" American attitude. I hate this 2 faced money hungry country full of lazy idiots.
But I will say having a work force that will take on jobs at cheap (due to them being illegal, so even if the job is low paying, its still having a job), definately drives down the market, and makes skilled workers already in the field either drop their prices down (losing profit) or move to another field.


And before anyone says that if I hate America I should get out and go somewhere else, America illegally invaded my country, and is still stealing every bit they can to this day.

[White Nightmare]

Many years ago when the majority of immigrants were of European decent, they came over here by the boat loads and left most of they're culture/languages behind to become US citizens and to start new life's. I don't see why other races cant seem to do the same or feel that they shouldn't have to.

I feel that if any languages should be taught in school it should be main power languages. I believe the main ones consist of English, German and Japanese.

-Chris

[1991 318is]

English?

immersing yourself into the English culture....

This is the United States of America. English and European classical culture have never had any significant impact here. Our culture is derivative of our folk culture. It is the culture of the masses and not the artistic and aesthetic elite. Country music, blues, jazz and their contemporary manifestations are the dominant influences. It's the culture of radio and TV. English culture is the culture of England and even that's dead. So, should the Hispanics cop to Nashville or the ghetto? Look at your CD collection. There's your culture!
Most of my friends from foreign countries learned English from rock and roll records if they're my age and from rap if younger. Welcome to America, bitches and ho's!

[Maluco]

Illegal Hispanics break the law as their first act on US soil, then abuse our social system, abuse our health care system, commit identity fraud, destroy property values, commit crime without any way for local law enforcement to track them, and do it right in front of our face on our tax dollars. After all that they have to nerve to DEMAND amnesty just because they work shitty jobs?!?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_crime

United States
A February 1997 report on rape and sexual-based crime published by the United States Department of Justice stated that of the crimes surveyed, 56% of arrestees were Caucasian, 42% were African American, and 2% were of other races. The report additionally noted that "[v]ictims of rape were about evenly divided between whites and blacks; in about 88% of forcible rapes, the victim and offender were of the same race."[3]
A subsequent United States Department of Justice report which surveyed homicide statistics between 1974 and 2004 stated that of the crimes surveyed, 52.1% of the offenders were Black, 45.9% were White, and 2% were Other Races. Of the victims in those same crimes, 51% were White, 46.9% were Black, and 2.1% were Other Races. The report further noted that, "most murders are intraracial", with 86% of White murders committed by Whites, and 94% of Black murders committed by Blacks.[4] It should be noted that the document does not provide any details concerning what races or ethnicities are included in the designations "White", "Black", or "Other Races".

[Maluco]

People say they take our jobs. #1 whos going to do backbreaking labor for 10-14 hours a day for minimum wage? A teenager? no. NO ONE wants those jobs. #2 We actually take THEIR jobs in thir countries when we make their farmers obsolete due to us continuing to subsidize our farms and tax foreign goods to keep our inferior industries afloat and making money for the shotcallers.

Read up on our nations policies and then talk, kiddies. Dont just listen to the controversial bullshit media. Do some homework before you marginalize a whole population of people who make ALL of our lives easier.
Mariano

Knowledge and understanding!