convicted?

[Bimmerboy91]

are you convicted of a moving violation when the ostifer gives you the ticket or when you go to court?

[s0urce]

You're convicted when you A: Pay the Fine (you sign something admitting your guilt), B: Go to court and the judge decides so.

[whiltebeitel]

Sounds like someone had a run-in with the po-po

[Bimmerboy91]

yea i did. 5-0 or here the ol' sheriff in town gave me a ticket for speeding but i check my speed right in the spot they said they caught me speeding and i was going in between 35 and 40 mph. this was in a 35mph zone. everyone else was going the same in my lane no tailgating or anything and the people in the lane next to me were going faster. pull into this street (25 mph zone) and im going down it with the same 2 cars that where in front of me in the spot they supposeably saw me speeding and im going again between 25 and 30mph the guys in front are going like 30 or 35mph pulling away from me. they put the lights on and im thinking what i do? the cars in front fled like a couple mexican crossing the boarder. big ole sheriff comes out with his partner that is in training and what do you guys think he asked? what year is your Bimmer8-)? yeah right! didnt understand a word he said cuz he was talking fast! something about speeding didnt really catch how fast. but this was a while back and the cabrio is sold too:(.

[Bimmerboy91]

and the only thing i signed was the ticket, so am i convicted when i signed the ticket?

[Jscotty]

No. The signature only indicates that you understand the ticket. It is not an admission of guilt. As Source stated, its only a conviction once the judge determines guilt or you admit guilt.

If you need to prolong a conviction, opt to go to court first and foremost. You have nothing to lose. Court dates are usually scheduled 1 to 2 months out. About 2 to 3 weeks prior to your court date, call the courts and ask for a new court date. Make up some sort of excuse about being scheduled for surgery and you will not be mentally competant to stand trial or something like that. Or maybe you can get away with telling them that you will be in court in another state. I dunno what the penalty is for getting caught in a lie but more than likely you can reschedule a court date no questions asked. That ought to set you back another 60 to 90 days. After that, see if you can request another court date. At this point they might ask for proof that you cannot make it to court and/or give you an ultimatum of appearing to court or admitting guilt. If they let you reschedule a second time that puts you a good 6 months or so out before you get a conviction. After you make it to court and if the judge finds you guilty, then you will have the option to appeal the decision. They schedule a date to return to court which is about 3 months later. At this time the judge hears what your case is about and then you are assigned a court date for the actual appeal. This can be another 2 to 3 months before you are back in court again. So that can set you back as long as a year before a conviction can take place. And if you had no violations over that year you could probably ask the judge to dismiss the case being that you have gone a whole year with no violations.

I don't know how many times you can file an appeal but I am sure that you can work the process long enough to stall the consequences until you figure out you are going to work it all out.

[xLibelle]

sweet! i get on average, about two speeding tickets a year... ive been really close to losing my license based on too many points. good way to hold the dogs back. long enough for them to recoupe

[Sean]

Appeals usually cost money.

I recently fought a gay-ass shit citizen ticket, and I would have won my court case had I not forgotten to discredit the officer's testimony of me admitting speeding to him. Had I said he aksed me more than once and I said I didn't know, I woulda gotten out without paying. In case you didn't understand, I wasn't pulled over by a cop - a guy followed me all teh way across town, and being the nice gentleman I am, I waited for the police officer with him, and then I get a speeding ticket, and I lost my court case. (Oh, and he was late, and the prosecuter callled him in, and he was in a Tshirt and jeans - I could tell the judge didn't care about him, and he told me why I lost the trial - which was pretty nice of him).

Nonetheless, I looked into an appeal, and really all it is is another judge looking over the court's proceedings and making another judgement, I wouldn't have gotten another trial. Not sure what it's like in NV, but thats in Idaho. And, it would have cost me like $300. Not worth it for a $62 speeding ticket FROM A CITIZEN. Fuck that bastard. I'm never being nice to people again. *sigh*

[Bimmerboy91]

the sheriff really didnt explain himself well, as i mentioned, i didnt catch the speed he told me i was going. And also i mentioned that everyone else around was going the same, if not faster then i was. i guess i was the lucky one out of the whole batch of other cars that where just driving along.

[Jscotty]

Well at least make sure its an actual ticket and not just a written warning. I got one for running a red light and the cop told me that it was not a ticket but my signature was to verify that the officer made me aware of my infraction. And the warning ticket had like 8 check boxes on it- none of which indicated a specific traffic violation but it had choices like "observed by officer" and "reported to officer".

Also if a citizen would have attempted to arrest me or detain me for speeding I would have ignored the guy and gone on about my business. And if I was in a situation where I ended up having to confront this guy with the police, I would have told the officer that I saw the man with a handgun and he pointed it right at me and I was attempting to escape.

[Sean]

Well at least make sure its an actual ticket and not just a written warning. I got one for running a red light and the cop told me that it was not a ticket but my signature was to verify that the officer made me aware of my infraction. And the warning ticket had like 8 check boxes on it- none of which indicated a specific traffic violation but it had choices like "observed by officer" and "reported to officer".

Also if a citizen would have attempted to arrest me or detain me for speeding I would have ignored the guy and gone on about my business. And if I was in a situation where I ended up having to confront this guy with the police, I would have told the officer that I saw the man with a handgun and he pointed it right at me and I was attempting to escape.

I would say nothing. I didn't have to say anything, and had I said nothing - I wouldn't have gotten a ticket.

I know now. And it's really pethetic that it has to be like that. Trust me...I'm never being nice to someone like this again. If they follow me and tlel me to wait with them I'll be like, sorry - but you have no right to keep me here. If you have a problem with me, send the officer to my home - I have nothing to say, and unless you have proof, you have nothing against me. End of story.

Don't mena to highjack your thread, sorry. :)

[gazellebeigem3]

What is a citizen ticket?

[Dave]

What is a citizen ticket?

'round these here parts if someone tried that, they'd most likely get a beat down.

[Bimmerboy91]

"Don't mena to highjack your thread, sorry. "

none taken my friend. i make threads like these to enterain or to help me out on things. same goes for the car problems. i havent had any car problems cuz i dont have my E30 no mores:(

i have a court date on the 5th of july. i have to do some work with the DMV here and im not suppose to have any moving volation convictions.

really though a citizens ticket? sounds like a thing an ex-cop would make up and put in use

[LINUS]

What is a citizen ticket?

Does anybody actually fall for that citizen ticket thing? Seriously, unless you got a badge, I ain't waiting around for anybody. Take my plate number & let them come to my house, but the idea of me getting browbeaten by another citizen ain't gonna play.

I hear chicks lately aren't even stopping for cops, but driving to the police station if they get the lights, just so they know it's a real cop - not an imposter rapist. Now you get a citizen with no credentials trying to play super citizen - I see a frightened woman shooting a guy trying to detain her on one of these things. Or the same ending Dave described too.